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Post by kevshell on Dec 29, 2022 15:47:55 GMT -5
Seems like re-reinventing the wheel. Seems to me there would be a lot more to be gained by redirecting the marketing dollars, R&D, etc. spent on pushing a new rifle and round over tooling up a lever gun to shoot the 357 Max. I get they're filling a need in straight wall restriction states but they could win using an established cartridge and create ammo for a group that would otherwise not have it without reloading.
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Post by ethang on Dec 29, 2022 19:34:43 GMT -5
The Max is a 1.6 inch case, this appears to be a straight wall 30/30 at 1.8 inches. I would argue the straight wall regulations are stupid( I live in southern Mi) but they are what they are. The 350 Legend has done very well, but not because it was a great design. Headspacing on the case mouth was stupid, however they wanted an AR capable round for the newer generation of hunters. If MI would allow 45/70, 30/30 or even 375 Winchester I would never have looked at a Legend. I love the idea of a lever gun in a round that maximizes the limitations, but this round I think will be too late to market to make it viable.
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Post by Fowler on Dec 29, 2022 19:57:03 GMT -5
The cartridge makes far more since than the 350 Legend, who thought .355” dia makes more sense than.358”?!? Lot of good 35 cal bullets in .358” for rifles but how many 9mm bullet will hold up to the velocity? What the heck?
It could be a fun cartridge to play with but I doubt I do. I don’t live in a state that requires these straight wall cartridges so I’ll stick with my 45/70s happily. I keep thinking I want a different levergun to hunt with but I am content with what I have there.
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Post by Encore64 on Dec 29, 2022 19:58:01 GMT -5
Will be one heck of a Contender Cartridge...
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Post by Lee Martin on Dec 29, 2022 20:07:06 GMT -5
They just re-invented the .357 Herrett. The Buckhammer is 1.80", the Herrett is 1.75". But with the Herrett's small shoulder, I bet they're the same on volume. -Lee www.singleactions.com "Chasing perfection five shots at a time"
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Post by bigbrowndog on Dec 29, 2022 20:32:03 GMT -5
I’m betting it fizzles and dies before it actually gets moving.
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Post by ericp on Dec 29, 2022 20:43:18 GMT -5
The 357 Herrett immediately sprang to mind here as well. I'm surprised that Remington introduced the cartridge, wonder who will be clambering rifles for it?
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Post by Encore64 on Dec 29, 2022 20:47:48 GMT -5
The 357 Herrett immediately sprang to mind here as well. I'm surprised that Remington introduced the cartridge, wonder who will be clambering rifles for it? Eric That was my question as well. It'd be a killer in the Henry Single Shot. But, curious who'll build a Lever Gun for it...
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Post by bigbrowndog on Dec 29, 2022 20:49:27 GMT -5
I read on another link that it’s supposed to push a 200gr at 2100fps??? That sounds optimistic to me, since the 35rem. does that.
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Post by 45MAN on Dec 29, 2022 20:52:01 GMT -5
ONE "ADVANTAGE" OF A NEW ROUND IS THAT, AT LEAST FOR A WHILE, AMMO IS AVAILABLE, BUT BETTER BUY A LOT WHILE YOU CAN.
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Post by iwsbull on Dec 29, 2022 20:56:35 GMT -5
I have to admit I am a bit interested and if there is a new lever gun out there might bring a few more folks into expanding out of the AR platform and being straight walled it might add a few new loaders.
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Post by aciera on Dec 29, 2022 21:45:14 GMT -5
Brass might be handy
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Post by potatojudge on Dec 30, 2022 1:53:46 GMT -5
I’d take it in a pump action
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Post by bigbore5 on Dec 30, 2022 6:51:18 GMT -5
Sounds like a 357max long. Wonder if the brass could be trimmed to use in the Maximum.
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Post by Encore64 on Dec 30, 2022 7:01:07 GMT -5
Not if it's based on the 30-30 Case.
I don't know where this one is going. But, it does interest me a bit.
Similar to so many of the old vintage rounds. This one would shoot pistol or rifle bullets, whether cast or jacketed.
I did read that Henry is supposed to be building a Lever Gun chambered for this one. Hopefully their Single Shot too...
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