groo
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Post by groo on Oct 10, 2020 12:45:28 GMT -5
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Post by maxcactus on Oct 10, 2020 15:07:32 GMT -5
Good question, Groo. Many years ago, there were several very talented smiths close to me, two of whom were very highly regarded pistolsmiths, particularly re: 1911s. One of those has since passed on, the rest of fled this God-forsaken, anti-gun state! Heck, even Jack Huntington used to only be one hour from my home, but he's now fled this hell hole, too. Taxes, regulations, liability and cost of living simply make CA prohibitive for many who make their living here, particularly gunsmiths. I'm actively looking to get out of here as soon as I possibly can myself, like so many others. That's one reason why I really want to buy something that is solid and good to go, right out of the box. I do NOT want to have to send it to a smith for any reliability/fix/modify type work.
I most definitely do NOT want a safe queen. This will be a hard use working pistol. I'm leaning toward a Les Baer, but I'm also thinking of buying a Dan Wesson and Rock River to test against one another, and I'll sell one or two that don't really scratch me where I itch. If none of them really live up to expectations (doubtful) I'll commission one of the pricier boutique options.
Max
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Post by zeus on Oct 13, 2020 20:26:45 GMT -5
Good question, Groo. Many years ago, there were several very talented smiths close to me, two of whom were very highly regarded pistolsmiths, particularly re: 1911s. One of those has since passed on, the rest of fled this God-forsaken, anti-gun state! Heck, even Jack Huntington used to only be one hour from my home, but he's now fled this hell hole, too. Taxes, regulations, liability and cost of living simply make CA prohibitive for many who make their living here, particularly gunsmiths. I'm actively looking to get out of here as soon as I possibly can myself, like so many others. That's one reason why I really want to buy something that is solid and good to go, right out of the box. I do NOT want to have to send it to a smith for any reliability/fix/modify type work. I most definitely do NOT want a safe queen. This will be a hard use working pistol. I'm leaning toward a Les Baer, but I'm also thinking of buying a Dan Wesson and Rock River to test against one another, and I'll sell one or two that don't really scratch me where I itch. If none of them really live up to expectations (doubtful) I'll commission one of the pricier boutique options. Max I have said before but now that you mention those three, definitely the DW or RRA. The DW May be easier to find but if you’re willing to wait possibly on the RRA, they will build exactly what you want. Sight, checkering, barrel maker etc it’s truly an exceptionally built pistol. And the price is really good for that quality!
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Post by sixshot on Oct 13, 2020 21:04:34 GMT -5
Just bought a Kimber Trophy Match in 38 Super, should have it tomorrow. I'm hoping it shoots as good as the one I owned about 20 years ago in 40 caliber. I also bought one of my son's one in 45 & he was outshooting half of the Grandmasters in the country with it after my gunsmith son did some tune up work on it. He never once had a problem with it & I'm sure it had well over 100,000 through it, all cast bullets. I've heard good & bad about the Kimbers so we'll see how it goes tomorrow.
Dick
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Post by sportster on Oct 14, 2020 18:56:06 GMT -5
Dan Wesson or a Colt Government Level 2 custom shop. May not be much but that is all I have to add to this.
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dhd
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Post by dhd on Oct 15, 2020 7:35:05 GMT -5
Wow! 6 pages about the rattle trap trashy 1911 on a SA revolver forum. Who cares about a 1911 when we now have Glocks. Are y'all crazy?
Is that a JDAM I hear whistling outside enroute to me?
Good information about some nice 1911's in this thread with varying costs. Like cars, it's not always how much money you have to spend and for me the journey is almost as much fun as the purchase when you decide. Reliability and accuracy always wins for me with my guns. I've always wanted a RRA and then they quit making them. Now they've started again but the itch for a new 1911 hasn't popped back up yet.
I'm a little jealous of you maxcactus in your current search.
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Aggie01
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Post by Aggie01 on Oct 15, 2020 14:17:34 GMT -5
Apparently the Aggie01 Custom 1911 is more highly regarded than I thought. I built a bobtail commander in 10mm with a Foster frame and Fusion top end parts awhile back. I sold it to a friend a few years ago for the princely sum of $900. (essentially, he paid for the parts, I paid for the learning.) FYI - one of the things I learned - don't do a Commander 10mm. Took a 28 lb (IIRC - highest wolf makes) recoil spring to line out the slide speed and ejection.
He just traded it to a retail gun shop for a LNIB Dan Wesson Bobtail Commander in .45 - and he drew $500 to boot. He apologized for trading off a custom I built, I told him "You done real good".
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WARDOG
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Post by WARDOG on Oct 17, 2020 10:25:50 GMT -5
I'm a little late to the party, been huntin'. I am a fan of 1911's and have owned many throughout the price ranges. I currently own three 1911 platforms that I use routinely. Springfield EMP4 CCC 9mm, Nighthawk Custom T3 Commander .45, Springfield Professional 'CRG' serialized .45. I have to say that the Springfield Professional has been superb. At a cost of $2800 with a 2002 manufacture date it has outshot, and has been more reliable than other 1911's at much more $. The Professional is well worn and has about 8500 rounds through it and it has NEVER jammed. Based on my experience I highly recommend the Springfield Pro.
1. At roughly what price would you separate "standard" mass produced 1911s from "premium" manufactured 1911s? $1000? $1500? $1800? More?
Quality starts changing at the price of $1800+
2. At what prince point do you feel diminishing returns start setting in? I know this is subjective, so I'm asking for your opinion. Where do you feel real benefits start dropping off and a customer starts paying for bling or bells and whistles that do little to improve performance? I'd love to have a Jason Burton Heirloom Precision, but I want a hard use tool that won't suffer massive depreciation due to range use, carry, etc.
I think you start to lose your value exceeding $3k
3. Given a budget of between $1500-2300, which 1911 in your opinion do you feel offers the best value for your $$ and which would you choose for a serious SD tool? Dan Wesson's are fine pistols for the price.
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awp101
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Post by awp101 on Oct 17, 2020 13:08:03 GMT -5
I'm also thinking of buying a Dan Wesson Keep an eye on gunbroker, there’s a seller that goes by twogunjay IIRC. He doesn’t always have them but when he does they’re at good prices.
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Post by zeus on Oct 19, 2020 11:11:43 GMT -5
I'm a little late to the party, been huntin'. I am a fan of 1911's and have owned many throughout the price ranges. I currently own three 1911 platforms that I use routinely. Springfield EMP4 CCC 9mm, Nighthawk Custom T3 Commander .45, Springfield Professional 'CRG' serialized .45. I have to say that the Springfield Professional has been superb. At a cost of $2800 with a 2002 manufacture date it has outshot, and has been more reliable than other 1911's at much more $. The Professional is well worn and has about 8500 rounds through it and it has NEVER jammed. Based on my experience I highly recommend the Springfield Pro. 1. At roughly what price would you separate "standard" mass produced 1911s from "premium" manufactured 1911s? $1000? $1500? $1800? More?Quality starts changing at the price of $1800+ 2. At what prince point do you feel diminishing returns start setting in? I know this is subjective, so I'm asking for your opinion. Where do you feel real benefits start dropping off and a customer starts paying for bling or bells and whistles that do little to improve performance? I'd love to have a Jason Burton Heirloom Precision, but I want a hard use tool that won't suffer massive depreciation due to range use, carry, etc.
I think you start to lose your value exceeding $3k 3. Given a budget of between $1500-2300, which 1911 in your opinion do you feel offers the best value for your $$ and which would you choose for a serious SD tool? Dan Wesson's are fine pistols for the price. I would have to agree about the PRO. It’s a great handling handgun. Something about it just feels right!
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Post by squawberryman on Oct 27, 2020 15:42:10 GMT -5
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Post by AxeHandle on Nov 4, 2020 6:21:11 GMT -5
Speaking of EGW I have a Clackamas marked Kimber that EGW touched along the way. Doesn't really have that "custom" feel, but fit and finish are better than most of the off the shelf production 1911s we see. It compares well with the Dan Wesson 1911s we see these days.
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Post by AxeHandle on Nov 4, 2020 6:21:21 GMT -5
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Post by AxeHandle on Nov 4, 2020 6:24:29 GMT -5
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Post by AxeHandle on Nov 4, 2020 6:24:46 GMT -5
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