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Post by RDW on Nov 2, 2020 18:04:37 GMT -5
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rhino
.30 Stingray
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Post by rhino on Nov 3, 2020 0:46:39 GMT -5
Ronnie or Fireball...what are those grips made of? They look awesome. How long did they take to polish out?
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Post by jringo8769 on Nov 3, 2020 1:34:59 GMT -5
Here You Go Fireball! Gentlemen, Fireball has some pics he wanted to show of his progress. he had some trouble getting the links to work in the forum her! so i posted the pics for him. Maybe someone here on the board with some experience with this format (IMGBB host) could enlighten us on it. Pop in and give a description of what you did here Fireball! Looking really good there podna! He did decide to narrow them up a bit! Great Job Bud! Excellent work... looks great
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Post by fireball7709 on Nov 3, 2020 6:36:25 GMT -5
Thanks guys. I shoot Cowboy Action, so everything has to be in pairs. The grip material is sheephorn. It works pretty easily(like stag or a hardwood) and provides a great grip while looking awesome. Honestly the grip fitting took longer than the frame to frame fitting.(Kudos to Ronnie for perfectly done frames) I got the grips from an old knifemaker out of the Midwest, he was able to get enough material to make a few sets and I bought them all for various projects. They are more of a "kit" than a bolt on, requiring flattening the back, fitting to the frame and contouring.(and then a lot of final sanding) It's probably a better alternative to Sambar(my previous preference before it became stupid money) from a durability standpoint as the sheephorn has a tighter grain structure. I have smaller hands and have always thinned my grip frames and have traditionally removed a bunch of material in the lower web in an effort to lighten them up. Now that Ronnie is making these awesome frames in Aluminum, I don't have to do that! This pair isn't finished, still needing the trigger guards contoured and some final blending and polishing, but the state and regional championships were looming and I needed them operational.
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Post by clintsfolly on Nov 3, 2020 9:49:41 GMT -5
Fireball they are coming Along great ! please post more As you progress..
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Post by seminolewind on Nov 3, 2020 12:30:46 GMT -5
Are those the brass front sights that fit over the original sight blade? I've looked at them for a Vaquero with a too short front sight, but wondered how the wide brass would look, sight picture wise. Beautiful guns by the way.
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Post by RDW on Nov 3, 2020 12:39:28 GMT -5
Fireball they are coming Along great ! please post more As you progress.. Absolutely! Here are a couple from Trappers Guns recently finished! A 357 Mag Shorty with extra 9 mm Cylinder with a FrankenFab Bisley Dragoon. Here is A Long Tom in 475 Linebaugh, Oh ya, a Boomer! Great Job Tom. Love the Barrel rib man!
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Post by RDW on Nov 3, 2020 12:58:10 GMT -5
Been Diggin Me some Barrel ribs lately!!!!! Over the years, ive done a bunch of crazy Barrels! Octagon, Hex, Ovate barrel Bands and a couple ovate full length, hell even a 14 incher on a maximum with flutes and a scope big enough to see Pluto! Hahaha. but watching Bradshaw wittlin on the Bison Hunter, Got me to hankerin for something similar to the Ruger Super BlackHawk Hunter. I dont have a hunter, so i sat down last week and made me something similar as an experiment! I built a Hunter look alike out of an old B.A.S.S. stainless blackhawk that nobody seemed to have any interest in so i mowed the hell out of it. Welded up the top strap so i could have square front corners and made the Barrel .850 all the way to the front. No taper! I mimicked the front of a Redhawk so i could use the front sight and grooved her all the way across the top with 32 threads per inch with a modified thread mill. Love grinding cool cutting tools! Since i was going to copy Super Daves idea of a Butchered bison with finger grooves i made a standard size which is along side the bisley length and one a quarter inch longer so i could get all of my fingers (or Sausages as my daughter calls them) on the grip frame. Aluminum to match up with the Stainless and and some walnut scales. Then i changed my mind and made some Cocobolo scales to go with it. I have about 5000 new Starline 360 Dan Wesson cases, so i figured why not. Have any of you tried this caliber. It fits perfectly in a standard frames long cylinder and will put some serious starch on .357 mag and chase down the maximum close enough to make you proud! Sqaured the front top strap.
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Post by RDW on Nov 3, 2020 13:12:36 GMT -5
Had to go shoot her a little so i put it together and went and punched some holes. Now shes all done and time to finisher all out real pretty. I know it looks a little crazy but it sure shoots good. The trigger guard is so big, i found myself shooting right handed with my right finger on the trigger and my left pointer on to of the right and pulling both together straight back with Zero deflection. cocking with the left thumb! 180 lyman # 2 lead, saeco mold with gas checks at 1496 fps and just wringing the X s out of the target at 55 yards. so like i said , Digging me some Ribbed barrel. Just decided not to put the scope mount cuts after my range test. why bother!
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Post by highplains on Nov 3, 2020 13:43:43 GMT -5
That is some serious looking iron Ronnie. Great job man
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Post by jringo8769 on Nov 3, 2020 14:36:43 GMT -5
Looking incredible my dear friend Loving it Thank you for sharing it with us Stay safe out there God Bless,John
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Post by fireball7709 on Nov 3, 2020 18:45:20 GMT -5
Are those the brass front sights that fit over the original sight blade? I've looked at them for a Vaquero with a too short front sight, but wondered how the wide brass would look, sight picture wise. Beautiful guns by the way. They are. I made them up because I wanted something really big. For what you're looking to do the "heartless gamer" sights here: wethepeoplemunitons-com.3dcartstores.com/ would probably be better, they're not so wide and are really well made. They use a Permatex adhesive to retain them, same thing I used.
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Post by needsmostuff on Nov 3, 2020 19:07:51 GMT -5
I know ,just me being anal but,,,,,, Something about that grip screams out for two spaced grip screws . Just something else different for that great looking boomer.
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Post by bradshaw on Nov 3, 2020 22:02:47 GMT -5
----Ronnie Wells ***** Thought I’d done a photo piece on the RW brass Bison Hunter and its offspring, the Butchered Bison----with beaver-chewed finger grooves. Sent photos to Ronnie. The idea was to get more of my little finger around the front strap. I was wrestling with the slope of the Bison backstrap, which turned my attention to the front strap... so I traced my fingers on the front strap, then whipped out a hacksaw and the Dremel. Since we’re experimenting I took the liberty to break rules----including aesthetic rules governing “traditional looks.” Needed to get a feel of INITIAL RECOIL, before the bullet departs muzzle, the critical moment connecting SQUEEZE to FOLLOW THROUGH which determines accuracy. Grip, squeeze, follow through must repeat smooth as deep sleep to achieve consistency on target. Once we involves cartridges of undeniable recoil, results depend on GRIP MONOTONY. Traditional single action grips ignore the pinky. Ronnie lept on the finger grooves. In fact, unbeknownst to me he had already fashioned a finger single action. Having worked with a hand surgeon, Ronnie was onto the importance of the little finger in steering the hand. My idea was to allow small persons to effectively shoot more power. In trying to catch up I don’t want to get ahead of the shooting. David Bradshaw
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Post by RDW on Nov 4, 2020 12:03:37 GMT -5
Here is a Bradshaw 4 degree forward Finger groove which i call the standard. BFGS ( Bradshaw Finger Groove Standard) in Black over a Standard Bisley in Red. Notice the extra trigger guard. Its not much, but significant! The backstrap is in the same location as the Bisley so length of trigger pull is the same! The angle changes on the backstrap putting the trigger finger in a different position or slightly elevated angle, which is helping to roll the muzzle faster than the push back, and therefore eliminating knuckle Tagging! Here is The BFG L. (Bradshaw Finger groove Large.) It offers more room on the back and the bottom for larger and longer fingers. A lot more knuckle clearance and a bit more pinky finger angle! Here is The BFG s in Black over the BFG L in Red! The extra meat on the top is balanced out by a more abrupt angle at the Bottom. The fingers are spaced out a bit more on the Large! Here is an un fit BFG Standard with Walnut! Several things i have noticed and i believe David agrees is consistent finger placement no matter how you pick the revolver up. Whether it comes out of a holster or sock, or just off of a table it always lines up the same! If your pinky finger goes to the same spot every time by the funneling effect, so do your other two middle fingers. With that being said, obviously your trigger finger will be in consistent placement with the frame and that increases marksmanship potential! Your thumb web will not move therefore hammer bite to the upper hand goes away! The angle change has absolutely been a game changer with trigger guard to knuckle contact. The gun rolls differently than with a standard bisley and neither one of us has had one knuckle bite to date. And i am testing with some really ugly recoilers! 500 Linebaugh with 525s and full charges of H110 is guarantied to be a very harsh hombre and i have sent hundreds down range now with the altered angle frames with no knuckle contact. I sure hope this does not sound like a bunch of YAGA to you guys but i really believe we are on to something here! These frames are certainly not traditional aesthetically but i believe are livable if you want to conserve your hand anatomy for years to come! Hope that answers any question you might have! R
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