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Post by cddogfan1 on Apr 12, 2019 10:58:33 GMT -5
So I have decided to make the leap and swallow the 10mm pill. My issue is trying to decide what platform to make the leap with. I am currently a revolver guy and do not own a semi-auto other than a Mark II target. I have handled various semi-auto over the years that belonged to friends and family but personally always stuck to revolvers. Really I am just trying to decide between the Glock, Springfield XDM, or a 1911 of some sort. Found a Springfield 1911 locally for just a little over a grand and almost bit took it home but thought I would get some opinions here first.
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Post by magman on Apr 12, 2019 11:36:00 GMT -5
I had a 10mm 1911. Hated chasing brass(little bit of a brass hoarder). I sold the 1911 and had Clements do a GP100 for me(before Ruger brought one out). Now I am waiting for the 610 to be released. I guess I would consider another 1911 or other semi-auto if I could figure out how to "easily" recover brass.
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Post by hughree on Apr 12, 2019 11:57:48 GMT -5
That's a great question but difficult to answer without knowing your needs. I've ended up with several configurations over time and here my experiences.
Glock platform - I have a Glock 20, 3rd Gen. It's a stretch (literally) for small hands, handles recoil well, double stack capacity, and easily adaptable to a number of other calibers (.45,.40, .357 Sig, etc) with barrel and mag changes, depending on caliber. If you shoot Glocks and like them, its a solid choice. Glock also makes a "smaller" version as the Model 29 and a longslide that is optic ready and likely the best choice for hunting if you're tall enough to keep it from dragging the ground in a belt holster.
Springfield - I don't have the XDM in 10mm but own and shoot that platform (and XD's) in .45. I'm a big fan of Springfield's ergonomics as they make double stack pistols that fit my medium hands very well. Mine, even stock, are very accurate. Good sights. Great warranty with shipping both ways on SA's dime (and shipping takes a LOT of dimes these days). Some shooters are uncomfortable with a grip safety but I have never had a failure because of the feature. The design is more complicated that Glock's but I have never had a failure that wasn't attributable to a reload. The 10mm in some loadings is significantly more robust that most .45 ACP's, so the durability of this new model requires faith in Springfield's test reports. I would have no reservations about its longevity if I was going to shoot only factory loads. I don't think I would use it as a test gun for experimenting with redline loads but I would not do that in an all steel 1911 either. If I wanted to find the edge of the envelope, I imagine it would be in a Glock set up with special springs and a fully supported barrel. But that's just me.
Dan Wesson 1911 - I am a big fan on the 1911 platform in calibers larger than 9mm and also Dan Wesson. DW has been chambering it's 1911 in 10mm for a long time and stayed with it when other manufacturers gave it a pass. I have a recent example of their Valor in 10mm and, while I haven't shot it a lot, the 400-500 rounds I have put through it have shown (not proven) it to be reliable and very, very accurate. Plus, the DW 1911s generally exhibit attention to detail, incorporation of feedback from customers, and assembly practices that belie their reasonable price points. My Valor is a 5 inch, but DW offers Commander sized models as well as a longslide 10mm Bruin that would be your huckleberry if hunting is its purpose. I have no experience with 10mm 1911's from any other manufacturer but there are several. I have had to use DW's customer service (my fault) and, while their shipping policy is not as good as Springfield, the care and quality of work performed was outstanding.
For the record, I like the 10mm but there is really nothing I use it for that cannot be done with the .45 ACP in any of the three platforms discussed above. As a reloader, I'm more relaxed taking a .45 to the range or the woods where I don't feel compelled to search for every fired casing. When I do break out a 10mm for the range, its more than likely a Smith & Wesson 610 revolver.
But you didn't ask about revolvers...
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Post by cddogfan1 on Apr 12, 2019 12:40:04 GMT -5
So what I am looking to do with it is use it for handgun hunting deer and hogs here in Georgia and serve as a hunting/woods carry gun. It will also double duty as my truck carry deference gun. Do not plan to carry it concealed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 13:49:27 GMT -5
So what I am looking to do with it is use it for handgun hunting deer and hogs here in Georgia and serve as a hunting/woods carry gun. It will also double duty as my truck carry deference gun. Do not plan to carry it concealed. The 1911 would definitely be my choice, but then I am sick of plastic guns. Kimber, Ruger, Remington, etc all have reasonably priced 10mm guns. A 1911 with an RMR would be awesome for your stated uses.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 13:53:01 GMT -5
This might fit the bill for an open sighted option. It's made in the South (Huntsville, Ala).
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Post by mindustrial on Apr 12, 2019 14:33:54 GMT -5
Just got a new Kimber Custom II 10mm for $615. I had a little polishing to do to get my 155gr jhp's to feed, but works well now. Sportsmanssupply (.com) has them on their website for $629, or you can pick one up on gunbroker for a little bit less. Mine shoots well, descent frame/slide fit, descent barrel lock-up and bushing/barrel fit, and a respectable trigger pull for an off the shelf gun.
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Post by cddogfan1 on Apr 12, 2019 14:37:01 GMT -5
I have been leaning more towards the 1911. Don't really want a long slide though. Thinking Colt, Kimber, Ruger, or Springfield. I hear mixed reviews on the Rock Islands. Would like to hear opinions on the these brands. Dont mind spending in the 1000-1200 range. But if you guys I can find something reliable for less would like to hear that too.
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Post by bradshaw on Apr 12, 2019 17:49:01 GMT -5
I have been leaning more towards the 1911. Don't really want a long slide though. Thinking Colt, Kimber, Ruger, or Springfield. I hear mixed reviews on the Rock Islands. Would like to hear opinions on the these brands. Dont mind spending in the 1000-1200 range. But if you guys I can find something reliable for less would like to hear that too. ***** The only 10mm Auto to reside on my carcass is an early Colt 1911 Delta Elite. Phenomenal reliability from day one. Accuracy likewise. There was ammo from Norma with velocity spreads of 150 fps. Jagged-mouth hollow points. Fed perfectly. Have yet to experience a stoppage with handloads. Trajectory dramatically flatter than a .45 ACP, with hard downrange clout. The recoil assembly must be changed periodically; you do not want the slide battering the frame. Were I to look for a 10mm today, I would ask everyone on Singleactions with experience. I would try as many guns as possible out to 100 yards. The 10mm Auto is a business cartridge with high intrinsic accuracy. Shoot it like you mean business. David Bradshaw
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Post by cas on Apr 12, 2019 18:16:53 GMT -5
This might fit the bill for an open sighted option. It's made in the South (Huntsville, Ala). If it's not built any better... or a lot better, than the Para it replaced, I'd avoid it. Mine was a turd.
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Post by woody on Apr 12, 2019 18:51:27 GMT -5
I have a Delta Elite and love it. I’ve been thinking of getting another 10mm. The Ruger is really nice. I have A buddy that has one. I’ve shot it and it’s a shooter!!!!! To me the 10 mm is a auto cartridge. That’s where it makes the most sense. Lots of power in a packable package. In a revolver there are better options. That being said I wouldnt mind having a 610.
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Post by AxeHandle on Apr 12, 2019 19:16:26 GMT -5
I'd go Springfield or Kimber....
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Post by bigbrowndog on Apr 12, 2019 20:08:03 GMT -5
I’ve owned , Glock 20, Glock 29, and Glock 40mos, I’ve also owned a Springfield Omega and a Custom Dawson Precision 2011. The 1911 and 2011 both gave great accuracy and reliability, the 40mos gives very suitable accuracy for varmints out to 50 and given the price is worth looking at.
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Post by coldtriggerfinger on Apr 12, 2019 21:13:21 GMT -5
I've had the same G20 for 6 years now. I like it a lot ! I tried 155 gr bullets in it a little but consider them strictly anti personell. But they would prolly work fine on deer. Also they can be pushed very fast. Most of the 180 gr factory ammo is loaded to moderate velocity and is great for plinking and would be fine for most things. I do shoot the 220 gr Buffalo Bore TC hard cast @ 1200 fps from my oem length Lone Wolf SS barrel. It has a fairly snug chamber. I very much want an XD10. I do not like 1911s any size , shape or caliber. Wouldn't have one in the house. But that's just me. Would very much like to shoot a 610 and GP 100 10mm. But haven't yet Would very much prefer a wheelgun in 10 mm over a 357 mag. I like the SF grip frame on the G20 much better than the standard grip frame. Short thick fingers and hands. One of the reasons I want an XD10. Plus, I like the grip safety for pocket carry. But mostly because there is more room inside the trigger guard than the Glock has. A short winter here is 6 months.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 21:46:43 GMT -5
The Ruger Night Watchman 10mm might fit the bill. The nitride finish would be good on a hunting piece. Those grips would have to go (IMHO) and an adjustable sight would have been nice.
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