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Post by sixshot on Jun 14, 2017 16:21:08 GMT -5
Guys, I think most everyone knows this has been all in fun! I like to tease & I get it right back, no harm, no foul! Texas, I love it, 2 of my kids were born there & I've been back several times, we spent our first retired year down in the Hill Country, Fredricksburg & Bandera & really miss it. Went over to Hondo a couple of times & seen the entrance to where some of you guys were hunting but didn't stop. Saw ton's of game around the little town of Medina, even saw Kangaroo's!
Hunting high fence in Texas is a way of life, it's legal, it's done everyday & I have absolutely no problem with it. I never actually did it but we were going to hunt hogs there one night but for some reason it fell through. We killed several hogs on other property & a feral hog can get wild inside of a closet, they don't need much area to be wild & nasty. 99% of Texas is private, if you're going to hunt there, you're going to hunt someone's property so get used to it. Still I tease a little bit but I have a lot of great friends down there & it's a special place for me.
We did actually hunt high fence elk once here in Idaho when a friend contacted me & said he had some cows he wanted to cull & said they were available at a very good price so I invited 4 friends & one guy brought a rifle & 4 of us used handguns. took 4 days but we got 4 cows, the fellow with the rifle gut shot his cow & I found it the next day, bloated. They were pretty wild on day one, they were really wild after that.
Looking at the horns on that Watusi makes me think they could be pretty nasty if they got mad. The horns on a Black Angus bull are nothing like that but they are still pretty fast & are built very heavy, make one mad & you had better not take time to look over your shoulder. Callshot can verify that I can run quite fast when I need to. So, keep pounding those bad boys with your jacketed solids & I'll happily do the same with my cast, they've never, ever failed me in the "under" 1000 lb. club. Oh, by the way, Black Angus don't have horns!!! Lunch is on me!
Dick
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Post by bigbrowndog on Jun 14, 2017 16:45:56 GMT -5
Whit, I agree that live flesh testing cannot be duplicated in any other way. I have had dismal inconsistent data from trying to duplicate performance even from a dead animal and propping it up to "try" and replicate a shot for data purposes.
Life flesh and creatures react differently, plain and simple.
I would thoroughly enjoy simply being along when you guys "collect data", I really was not implying that you guys are manufacturing drama or anything like that.
I tried to make that known in the text of my post, I hope you and the others got that point.
Trapr
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Post by tradmark on Jun 14, 2017 16:47:41 GMT -5
If it charges and can and will try to kill you its dangerous. Notice we have never said it could charge, its happened more than once. Anyone that thinks the prescence of a perimeter fence = domesticated animals hasnt really done as much hunting as they claim. Ive seen hunting high fence hunting be a walk up and shoot and ive felt more in peril than in africa. Pick the right spot.
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Post by tradmark on Jun 14, 2017 16:51:36 GMT -5
I love helping people along. I love people to partake in these experiences that have a passion for dangerous game and revolver bullet effectiveness. I find it much more accurate than sitting around shooting inconsistent packs of wet paper, playing the harmonica and shooting at balloons taped to radio controlled cars. That all may be fun but doesn't tell you what you need to know about bullets and calibers.
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Post by seak89 on Jun 14, 2017 16:52:56 GMT -5
All the game on Texas ranches are found feral in many places in the state. I have a friend that has loots of Eland pass through his deer lease and takes them with his 243 just like his deer. I understand Whit saying its a testing ground for bullets and see his results. I myself also take a shoulder shot for first shots here in Alaska but I shoot the point where the bone and shoulder blade meet to break down the front end and have not recovered a JDJ 320 44mag or 340 45colt hc on anything but I try best to not just hit the bone. Bear don't have bones like the bigger cattle I agree. Fact is I bet if just hunting these folks would be making one or two shoot kills with better shot placement than that used testing bullets. With my money testing is better done in logs and steel but if I have the money it would be fun o pop a cap or two at the outing.
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Post by jwp475 on Jun 14, 2017 17:43:55 GMT -5
I love people along. I love people to partake in these experiences that have a passion for dangerous game and revolver bullet effectiveness. I find it much more accurate than sitting around shooting inconsistent packs of wet paper, playing the harmonica and shooting at balloons taped to radio controlled cars. That all may be fun butnit doesnt tell ya what ya need to know about bullets and calibers. Domestic animals can and do charge and have injured and killed people. Hurt an animal and then follow it up to finish it off and they are not in a good mood. |
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Post by foxtrapper on Jun 14, 2017 17:54:40 GMT -5
Love this forum , pretty amazing gents on here!
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Post by sixshot on Jun 15, 2017 2:24:45 GMT -5
Forgot to mention, I did hunt high fence in South Africa, my friend & I, Fred Smith of Bullberry Barrel Works had a 14 day handgun hunt in the bush veldt country up along the Limpopo River. The property was about 9,000 acres & we took Blue Wildebeest, Impala, Kudu, Waterbuck, Zebra & I shot 3 Wart Hogs. My guns were a 6.5/284, a 338/284 & one of the first Freedom Arms 475's using a 370 gr. LBT style bullet furnished by Cast Performance. They gave me a bunch of 41's, 44's, 45's & 475's to test. At that time you could take 3 handguns (scoped) now I think you are only allowed two.
I also shot some Guinea Fowl out of the tops of Mopane trees while they were roosting at night using a spotlight, the feathers drifted for 10 minutes, stinky! One of the funniest nights was hunting Spring Hares, they are a cross between a small Kangaroo & a Pogo Stick, long back legs, a very long tail & they can move at mach 1V, shooting them at night with the 475 was wild! We only saw the fence when we drove through it the first day, it was a very large piece of property, maintained by a Black Tracker named Pete, his 2 wives & 2 daughters who had no shoes. I gave them candy everyday, they would be waiting for me at sun up!
The animals were very wild because they had done a recent round up with a helicopter to sell off some extra animals they had. Along the highways you would see animal auctions taking place where the ranchers would be buying & selling what they needed for their places. Every road side stop you could buy Biltong, usually made from Spring Bok. Hight fence, under the right conditions is a great way to gain experience for the eastern hunter who doesn't own property, took me a few years to come to terms with that fact.
Dick
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Post by tradmark on Jun 15, 2017 11:52:12 GMT -5
Very true Dick. I love going to South Africa. Had to cancel this year but rebooked next year. It's funny there are some on other forums that gave me hell for not hunting low fence in Africa and we were on over 90,000 acres. It took us 45 minutes of driving at 45-50 kph on a well maintained dirt road to get back to camp. What I've come to realize is it's not the size, nor whether there's a fence as to whether its a real hunt. For years I elk hunted a ranch just outside of Chama - 1,000 acres. There was one small wooded ridge that came out of the mountains that totalled about 150 acres. There were two trails down to the pond that they took EVERY day. I bought land owner tags and me and one of my boys would lie under a pine tree and cover both trails every year for 8 years before the ranch was sold. No high fence but if that hunt wasn't canned then I dont know what is.
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Post by bula on Jun 15, 2017 12:13:44 GMT -5
Apparently the height of the fence, or fence at all need not be the deciding factor in wether it was a hunt or not, at all. I have no recipes for fences anyway. Dennis, I am not buying any more large caliber cast bullets from you until you man up and show your face here...LOL.
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Post by jfs on Jun 16, 2017 0:14:36 GMT -5
True high fence story... 2nd time in S. Africa, which has fenced properties, I stayed in a tent up by Limpopo River and PH got me up to see pride of lions coming in from evening hunt. .....13 lions....12 females and 1 black mained male in single file with male at the end....Impressive.............. Anyway I get dressed for the day`s hunt and load up Land Rover when I forgot binos..... Walk back to my tent which was a good distance from truck and when I came around tent there was a female lion about 25 yards away on her belly with the tail whipping around......Never forget her yellow eyes....My guns were in the truck.... Slowly side stepped into tent waited a few seconds and looked.
She was gone...... and to this day I have to say that she was thinking: "I`am not going to eat this human because we are behind a fence and it would not be sporting"......The moral of the story.........
Don`t forget your binoculars........................................ 
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Post by sixshot on Jun 16, 2017 1:53:26 GMT -5
James old buddy, I have no doubt that there is no high fence in Africa that could have held you back if that little old lioness had let out one small purrrrrrrrrrrrrr............
Dick
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Post by seak89 on Jun 16, 2017 12:13:32 GMT -5
Folks with high fences every where have a full time crew working on fence
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Post by jfs on Jun 16, 2017 12:55:54 GMT -5
James old buddy, I have no doubt that there is no high fence in Africa that could have held you back if that little old lioness had let out one small purrrrrrrrrrrrrr............ Dick 
PS....being unarmed anywhere in Africa is not cool.........
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Post by whitworth on Jun 16, 2017 14:12:53 GMT -5
James old buddy, I have no doubt that there is no high fence in Africa that could have held you back if that little old lioness had let out one small purrrrrrrrrrrrrr............ Dick
PS....being unarmed anywhere in Africa is not cool.........
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