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Post by whitworth on Oct 18, 2009 10:18:39 GMT -5
Okay guys, keep adding fuel to the fire.
Bfrshooter, settle down.
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Post by bigmuddy on Oct 18, 2009 10:35:44 GMT -5
Anyone ever try to push a .458 bullet down a.451 bore? .007 isn't that much... We could be real nice to 2 Dogs and get him to send us a favorite 45 Colt for some testing.... I too remember reading where Elmer tried it and that not only started his writing career, but ended the life of an old Colt, IIRC. I am sure that you BFR are a great shot. I DO get offended though at your insinuations that no one else is. I know for a fact you are not the only one on this forum that can shoot well. You just seem to be the only one that keeps reminding everyone, and at the same time insulting the ability of shooters you have never witnessed nor even know.
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Post by 45nut on Oct 18, 2009 11:32:16 GMT -5
Greetings, I am the board owner over at "Cast Boolits". So you can gain some knowledge about the term, and since knowledge and sharing what these boards are all about I am here to share some background on the term. Back about 1998 or so I joined a place called Shooters.com and the "cast bullet" room in particular to get some information on casting beyond the published books from RCBS and Lyman, In short time I was gaining skills and getting feedback and information beyond what was available as well as suggestions and mold recommendations for my guns. In use in that room was the term boolit and the simple background, any one can purchase a bullet from Speer, Nosler, Sierra, et all, but only someone that casts can shoot a boolit. It separated instantly those projectiles machine made from those hand cast in molds. Fast forward to the summer of 2003 and the announcement Shooters was going to shut off the server and leave us all on our own. Now I had made many friends there and despite the impending meltdown I wanted to continue those friendships, many places were pondered and tried, but no one forum was settled on for all of us to meet. I was again, concerned that the bond would be lost and the information stream would cease. So, in hopes of keeping the group whole, I went in search of a host to start a forum dedicated to the cast bullet, well, I found the words Cast Bullet to be registered already in dozens of forms and quite unavailable. Being determined to start a forum I settled on the Cast Boolit title in honor of the use of that term in the old shooters room. It had certain points that would be troubling, the first of which quite obvious, the search engines were as rigid in the spelling of bullet as many seem to be and it would take particular effort to find us. Many of the older members followed from the old place and word of mouth brought along many from the Shooters.com site. That was in August of 2003. We held at about 700 members for 2 years, Then when I got an offer for a new host we moved to the Gunloads.com domain. We now have well over 11,000 members registered around the globe. We hold nobody to the exclusive use of the word boolit there, it is up to each person to choose for him/herself, but never once has anyone been chastised or ridiculed for not using local dialect or definition for the cast bullets they are there to learn about, or share their knowledge of with friends.
I believe Jim Zumbo was quite insistent that the AR-15 should not be used in the sporting fields and called for an outright ban on them, he was quite firm in his opinion that traditional firearms were the only suitable choice. He ignored the fact that many, if not all of those "traditional" firearms were either directly brought from the military or were spin-offs with minor changes. His stand was firm, ban them all! Well,, Mr Zumbo has certainly been educated in how standing firm in the face of reality and moving forward can keep you ignorant and being stubborn can hold you back. Remington and Ruger now offer "black rifles" for the sporting fields, so much for "tradition".
There are efforts afoot in several states to outlaw the use of lead, beyond the borders of California despite the use of pseudo-science in justifying the bans, gun control by any means possible. I don't suppose many here have noticed the explosion of prices in the components of our reloading needs? A Copper Clad Bullet that used to cost 8-12 per hundred now hovers in the 20-25 dollar sphere, now of they manage to outlaw the cast bullet how many can afford to feed the base of freedom? The gun without a bullet is useless, the 2nd will be seized by legislation not outlawing the gun, but the means and the purpose will be gone. And some here are incensed about the word "boolit"? It boggles me. We at Cast Boolits are not out to demean anyone, but to keep alive the craft and spirit of the gun culture at it's very base, keeping the lowly lead projectile alive through the education of new shooters on feeding the guns that mean freedom, freedom only assured by the guns that the 2nd was sure to protect. You can rest easy in your words of ridicule but at least we are doing something to keep alive the means to fire the guns we own and not remain reliant on the supply chain of Walmart.
I will sign off with my signature on my forum:
Boolits= as God laid it into the soil,,grand old Galena,the Silver Stream graciously hand poured into molds for our consumption.
Bullets= Machine made utilizing Full Length Gas Checks as to provide projectiles for the masses.
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Post by bfrshooter on Oct 18, 2009 12:05:31 GMT -5
That was not my point. My point is that all that claim I am telling stories should show what they do instead of jumping on me. I am sure there are some that know how to load and shoot here. It is the few that think it can't be done because they can't do it and call me names instead of looking at themselves and how they load and shoot first that ticks me off. I came to offer help, it might work and it might not but it is always free. I don't want to be in the ivory tower. The curse is that some do not agree with me and yet are not showing that I am wrong. We are not able to come together and discuss things, test things or find out what works best because so many know it all already or hate my spelling. Can any of you improve the revolver? Can any of you offer more knowledge? Why can't we talk and improve? I have NEVER insulted anyone here---PLEASE PROVE THAT I HAVE! You are talking out of the wrong hole. My request is valid. If you are getting any revolver to shoot tiny groups at all ranges, I would dearly like to know more. However, if you can't show it, don't blow smoke in my face. If your groups suck, I am dedicated to help any way I can with no strings attached and NEVER say my way is the only way. Only test it first. Do I scare guys off by asking for pictures? How about you Bigmuddy or Axehandle? I see nothing from you at all but talk. Post the groups you shoot. My God it is so hard to see what you say. I am not better, I am not a super shot, my claim is the tremendous amount of work done for 59 years with revolvers finding out how to make them accurate. So sad that after I die of old age, you will be so happy with 2" groups at 25 yards. I have one last word---BOOLIT!
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Post by sharpsshooter on Oct 18, 2009 12:18:44 GMT -5
Taffin ![](http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2008/5/15may27-caps-lock.jpg) Makes you appear arrogant pompous and egotistical.
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Post by rigby on Oct 18, 2009 12:23:20 GMT -5
You know what I really hate is when someone calls a Westley Richards 12 bore ball and shot gun a Paradox ![>:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/angry.png) , ;D Seriously though BFR cant you see why the skepticism? That you can take a revolver with so many inherently mechanical variances and shoot sub 1" groups at 100 yards with it? Ross Seyfried had to commission Bowen to build a revolver to be able to do it. If you said after going through a 1000 Rugers you where able to find one that can do it fine but.. To say you can out shoot a ransom rest? Gotta understand you aren't gonna have many believers. I just saw your post SS, you know nothing of what you speak and show yourself to be an ass in the Biblical sense.
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Post by CraigC on Oct 18, 2009 12:30:30 GMT -5
Well, I think sharpshooter just proved himself to be a world class dumbass with his first and hopefully only post. Probably one of bfr's lackeys.
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Post by Ken O'Neill on Oct 18, 2009 13:05:58 GMT -5
45nut, Thanks for your post. I see you joined today. sharpshooter, I see you joined today also. John Taffin uses a voice activated computer. It prints in caps. With your first post, you showed yourself in a damned poor light.
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Post by beekeeper on Oct 18, 2009 13:18:47 GMT -5
I came hereto see the bru-ha-ha about Bullets and boolits. I wonder if Mr Taffin ( a School teacher and author) understands that writing only in capitals is the same as shouting. Maybe that is what he does in his classroom but I (or we) are not his students to be cowed by his superior intellect. Maybe that is OK when he is writing one of his articles for the Magazine (s) he writes for but is it correct here. I get the impression he seems to think if he shouts loud enough and long enough everyone will be cowed into believing everything he says. "Me" I am just an old country boy with a high school education so I try to never shout at anyone on the forums or use foul language &&^%&^^% or such as I think it kind of grose..
Mr moderator feel free to remove my name from your members list as I'm sure Mr Taffin would never like to hear the truth.
beekeeper
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Post by beekeeper on Oct 18, 2009 13:25:02 GMT -5
Maybe he does use a voice activated computer ,if so it tells me even more about his disdain for everyone who doesn't cow down to his beliefs. Even a voice activated computer will print in lower case if you tell it to. Don't beleive me ask a computer IT.
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Post by rigby on Oct 18, 2009 13:27:04 GMT -5
I find it fascinating all this anger about some not liking the term boolits, You really are that insecure you need to come here and defend it, sad very sad.
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Post by CraigC on Oct 18, 2009 13:31:06 GMT -5
Wow, they're coming out of the woodwork today!
Misters sharpshooter, beekeeper and now Mjolnir, you are certainly not the first and unfortunately won't be the last to boo-hoo about Taffin's all caps. Fact of the matter is that John Taffin cannot type his responses because of damage to his hands and wrists so he uses voice recognition software that happens to print everything in caps. Forum regulars understand this and it's rather easy to disregard that particular internet protocol. Most of us here consider ourselves to be rather privileged to share cyberspace with one of our favorite gunwriters, John Taffin, and typically do our best to maintain civility. Posts like those from you two dummies are usually met with rather harsh responses because you obviously only came here to inflame and could care less to take the time to become acquainted with the regulars. So, how do your feet taste???
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Post by whitworth on Oct 18, 2009 13:31:54 GMT -5
Okay everyone, step back and take a deep breath. No need for slinging mud. Let's all just back up and cool down.
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Post by bfrshooter on Oct 18, 2009 13:33:36 GMT -5
45nut, WONDERFUL. We should all stick together, our freedom is at risk. Look what just occurred in Kalifornia. Bickering over a word is so pathetic. I truly hope all at this site will understand now. I make waves and do it for a reason. I want EVERYONE to shoot the best. I want all sites to be connected and all to be friends. I want all knowledge to be shared and most of all I do not want a Czar at any shooting site. Mr. John Taffin, I think I am due an apology. I did not provoke you in any way and never even knew you were here. I think we can shake hands and be friends if you can accept 'BOOLIT."
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Post by CraigC on Oct 18, 2009 13:35:49 GMT -5
Mr. John Taffin, I think I am due an apology. You have lost your mind!!! You owe everyone here an apology. All this crap over a made-up word??? Everybody see why 2 dogs left???
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