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Post by Rimfire69 on Sept 14, 2016 7:01:22 GMT -5
Another 50 rds of light .38 wadcutter loads from a FA-97 again yeasterday. Mostly rocks and steel plates, no big bore bang, but a lot of satisfying hits. This gun makes me think I'm a better shot than I really am, I love it.
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Post by sixshot on Sept 16, 2016 22:01:19 GMT -5
Shot the Bisley 41 magnum again today using both primers like I did earlier in the week. The load was the same, 18 grs. of 2400 & the 230 gr. Keith slug that I've used for over 40 years. The primers in question were either CCI LP's or Federal LP's, couldn't tell, they are both silver. The other primer is the Winchester LP they mark standard/magnum. I had some odd impact difference's a few days ago & wanted to see if I could repeat the same groups, thinking it might have been the sun going behind clouds quite often rather than the 2 different primers. Today I went back to 50 yds to start with & both primers shot almost exactly the same for me today, telling me that the primer difference wasn't much of a factor, although I was shooting at 50 yds instead of 100 yds to start with. With a dead center hold & hoping to hit at the top of the sights both primers shot just a tick low at 50 yds with group size almost exactly the same. Here's one of the targets, 5 shots on steel, 50 yds.  This was from the Keith reclining position with my feet on a stool & shooting between my knees, a position I use a great deal in the field. Moving back to 100 yds & holding just a tick above dead center I hit with the first shot & the next four missed. Walking down to the target the last 4 had all went high just like earlier in the week, surprising! I went back & held 6 O'clock & hit with the first shot so I fired the next 4 with all 4 hitting steel. First time in a while I've went 5 for 5 with iron sights from the Keith reclining position. The surprising thing was I was holding center at 50 yds & holding 6 O'clock at 100 yds to get all 5 shots on steel, I'll take it.  Dick |
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Post by cherokeetracker on Sept 17, 2016 7:01:50 GMT -5
Thanks for the info and repeat performance. This was interesting. A little unusual with POI being so different from POA between 50 and 100 yds.
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Post by sheriff on Sept 17, 2016 9:24:23 GMT -5
Thanks for the update, Dick. I've got a 'scoped' 7.5" Bisley .45 Colt I may 'bench' and shoot the 100yd plates with my favorite 4227 load and 255gr casts using WLP and CCI 300 just to test it in that revolver as it's my favorite whitetail whacker.
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Post by sheriff on Sept 17, 2016 12:03:33 GMT -5
Well, ran out to the range this morning around 10:30am, sunlight was good and wind was lite. Got set up, target set at 100yds and let go 5 rds primed with the WLP's. Two things I noticed before I ever walked down to pull the target, 68 year old diabetic eyes and 2X scopes don't work worth a crap and my blood suger was a little high.  I use 7.5x10 sheets of cardboard for targets, plain for open sites and with a 3" orange bull for scopes. These are stapled to a left over campaign yard sign holder. Makes a pretty cheap target/stand.  The left target is the WLP load, the right the CCI 300 load. All 10 shots were low as the gun is sighted in for 'dead on' at 50yds. Most were off the target and only three, 1 WLP and 2 CCI struck the target and or backer, but all hit in the same 'general' area. Ten rounds isn't enough for a conclusive test, but in the case of my IMR 4227 load, it doesn't seem to make enough of a difference as to the primer if my scope was sighted for the distance. The conclusion I did reach though was be darn sure you check your load in your gun before you go out, especially if you change up components. Might not make that much of a difference, then again........ |
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Post by CraigC on Sept 17, 2016 16:28:25 GMT -5
Been hammering on a new .44 Super Redhawk with 355's at 1200fps in preparation for a hunt. Details to follow.....  |
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Post by CraigC on Sept 17, 2016 17:08:36 GMT -5
Also having a blast with a new .22 rifle, a Henry Evil Roy model. Looks like I've gotta order some more dovetail blanks.  |
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Post by sixshot on Sept 17, 2016 20:29:49 GMT -5
cherokeetracker, it seems really odd to me too. But both times it was very consistent, at 50 yds I held center & hit almost center, just a bit low. At 100 yds, both days if I held up into the target at all the shots went over, I had to hold 6 O'clock to hit steel. I don't know the answer other than my old eyes, diabetes & glaucoma. That's why I have to use my left eye, shooting right handed.
I see the sights just fine with my right eye but the target is a total mess, using my left eye the sights aren't quite as sharp but at least I can see the target, even though it isn't great. Still, very odd to hold lower at 100 than at 50, we'll see if Bradshaw chimes in.
Dick
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Post by cherokeetracker on Sept 18, 2016 7:17:49 GMT -5
Dick, hopefully someone can answer this. It had me thinking lighter bullets, higher velocity,, but I don't know.
Russ, You are right on all accounts. Check loads, sights, and results, before any hunt.
Charles
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Post by contender on Sept 18, 2016 9:20:21 GMT -5
Well, I spent yesterday shooting my local USPSA match,, with my S&W again. I had a few "bobbles & screw-ups" to where I was sure I'd suffer in the scores. I guess there were others with worse issues than I had. Out of 38 shooters,,, I placed 28th, with a revolver, and I was the only revolver shooter. About 150 rounds downrange in it.
But seeing Dick's stuff above,,, I have to cringe a bit. See, I'm a stubborn cuss who has enjoyed good eyes all my life,,, until age started showing me who was boss. While I'm still fairly "ok" I see the differences my aging eyes are proving me to be less than I once was. And to me,,, when compared to many others,,, I still feel like I was a back seater to many good shooters. It's not getting better. Just aging,,, and so far, quality prescription glass are helping,,, but there IS a difference. I have a bunch of scoped Contenders, a few scoped revolvers, and a few with red dots. While I begrudgingly & very stubbornly have to accept the fact my eyes aren't what they used to be,,, I still enjoy pulling a trigger & working at shooting my revolvers at long ranges with irons.
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Post by sixshot on Sept 18, 2016 16:46:08 GMT -5
cherokeetracker, only problem in this case is, I used the same bullet weight & powder charge, the only thing that changed was the distance. I'm guessing if some one else shot my gun they would get different results because they would be getting a totally different sight picture, maybe not. I'll keep doing this for a while. It's really odd.
Dick
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Post by sixshot on Sept 18, 2016 19:22:04 GMT -5
Just returned from the range & fired the Bisley 41 magnum again with the same loads I've been shooting all week to see if the results will hold up. This time instead of shooting with the black side of the steel facing me I turned the white side towards me, just to see if that made any impact change. First shot at 100 yds was on steel, the second shot missed & I could tell from the dust it went high, emptying the cylinder I went down to the target & was very happy. Four shots on steel but this time I had fired 6 shots instead of 5, the second shot had went high & had went right through the center of one of the chain links on the left side, second one up. The other miss is in the wood between the 2 paper targets. So, 4 out of six on steel at 100 yds, iron sights from the Keith reclining position, again I was very happy. For me, with these old, goofy eyes that's as good as I'm going to be able to hold in the field using irons. With the scoped 10" 44 they are going to be in trouble for quite a distance if I'm prone or shooting off the sticks. One thing I forgot to mention, I have an old piece of leather that I lay across my legs to protect my pants when I'm using the Keith position, sometimes that cylinder can get too close & burn through your pants, then it usually takes about 3 laps around the house to make it feel better, you'll know when it happens! Most times the cylinder is past my legs.  And a small hi-jack....another one of the grandson's got another elk with the bow!! Dick |
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Post by seancass on Sept 18, 2016 20:24:10 GMT -5
I didn't get any pictures! But i made it to the range with some single actions today! and a double.
I had a 6" Smith 686. It shot like a dream with both 38's and 357s. I need to load up more 357's! 13.x gr of 2400 under a Gardner gas check bullet is just the ticket.
Then there was the .480 Ruger Blackhawk. This thing punished my hand. I need to experiment more, but it seems the bisley grip is harder on my hand than the FA grip. The Unique load was light enough, but the HS-6 load was a too much without gloves. Which is sad.
Speaking of the FA grip, I had the ol' FA 454 with me. But to spice things up, I put a scope on it. You want some giggles? put a scope on an FA. It's like having a laser rocket arms at the end of your hands.
And a first time, the NAA Earl 1860. This thing is awesome. It's surprisingly quick and easy to reload. Which is handy, cuz it's surprisingly easy to empty quickly! It's a fun little gun!
The was a Model P jr in there somewhere too.
Oh, and the Grand Finale. I got out a smoke pole. The old black powder 45. Single Shot. I'd shoot these things all the time if I didn't have to clean them when I got home! I never did figure out where it was hitting, but I rang some steel with it anyways. It was a lot happier at 10-15 yards than it was at 30!
Shooting fast in USPSA is a lot of fun, but man, ringing steel with a single action is something else altogether!
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Post by whitworth on Sept 19, 2016 9:04:14 GMT -5
Nice shooting tek!
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Post by whitworth on Sept 19, 2016 9:06:59 GMT -5
Then there was the .480 Ruger Blackhawk. This thing punished my hand. I need to experiment more, but it seems the bisley grip is harder on my hand than the FA grip. The Unique load was light enough, but the HS-6 load was a too much without gloves. Which is sad. Sean, I would seriously consider getting some custom grips made for it that fill your hand. I had a set made by Rob Rowen for my .454 Bisley (and my .480!) that make the revolver a whole heck-of-a-lot easier and more pleasant to shoot. Here are the .454's (Lucy!):  |
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