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Post by Markbo on Sept 16, 2015 10:53:35 GMT -5
FWIW Pat Marlin has already gotten some samples and is working on dies for this bullet.
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Post by dougader on Sept 16, 2015 13:29:22 GMT -5
I went to the post office and picked up my mould. You guys weren't kidding, Miha cuts an impressive mould! I opened the box up at my desk and a couple guys came over and started in about the quality... and, hp pins to boot!
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Post by dougader on Sept 16, 2015 15:50:55 GMT -5
As this is my first mould from Miha, can someone tell me what brand of handles I need for this one?
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Fowler
.401 Bobcat
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Post by Fowler on Sept 16, 2015 16:06:55 GMT -5
As this is my first mould from Miha, can someone tell me what brand of handles I need for this one? Miha offers his own but I use RCBS handles for mine without troubles.
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Post by fanofthefortyone on Sept 16, 2015 16:34:40 GMT -5
Lee 6 cavity or MP handles Ronnie
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jsh
.327 Meteor
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Post by jsh on Sept 16, 2015 18:15:25 GMT -5
In my findings in response to the wants of a gas check mold. Glenn designed it right I believe. A perfect cast plain base bullet will shoot as well as a gas check out to 100 yards. Size is king, as has been stated by many folks who shoot a large majority if not all cast. If the bullet does not look EXACTLY like the inside of the mold, it is a cull, period. I eye sort all of mine while sitting in front of the tube. Round lube grooves, rounded edges on the base, torn out sprues or any kind of blemish it is a cull. Maybe not all the time but most. PCing has had me save a few I would have tossed a few years ago. It is to easy to recycle them.
The base to me is the most important part, as it is the last thing to touch the bore. FYI a gas check isn't a cure all for accuracy. Improperly seating of a GC can be as bad if not worse than not enough belling of a case mouth. When I started casting I was having so so results. When shooting the results on paper were also so so. When I quit listing to the "oh they will shoot ok" and the "cast bullets are for plinking only and won't ever shoot as good as jacketed" crap, my success and results were rewarded. If you cast your self, and you accept sub standard bullets, you should be prepared to accept sub standard results on target.
If one buys a box of jacketed projectiles and they are all dinged up they would howl in pain. When having to buy jacketed or cast the buyer is at the mercey of who ever makes them. There are a few individual casters out there that offer an excellent product and take pride in them. The bulk stuff in boxes are pellets of alloy for what I have tried. Never got results I wanted.
Not scolding or meaning to ruffle feathers. Just stating how strongly I feel about casting and results that can be had with a good quality cast bullet. I am a castaholic I guess. Shot several deer one year, all with cast and each with a different caliber, handgun and rifle. I gotter' bad gents, lol. Jeff
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gjn
.30 Stingray
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Post by gjn on Sept 16, 2015 20:54:07 GMT -5
No ruffled feathers here. If you prefer a plain base I certainly understand and take no issue with that. I'm not looking for gas checks to correct defective or sub par bullets. It's certainly subject to debate but I believe gas checks serve a worthwhile purpose and don't mind the added cost and work. I strive to cast my bullets as perfect as I can make them and see gas checks as an additional step in doing that.
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Post by bushog on Sept 16, 2015 21:08:22 GMT -5
Miha has what he needs to do a .477-640 with a gas check.
I have one.
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Post by fanofthefortyone on Sept 16, 2015 21:21:59 GMT -5
This was from Miha before recent run, Quote Originally Posted by MiHec - 08-18-2015 06:46 AM Thes should cast .478 with ww alloy. I have 1mold in PB and 1 in GC as we speak Both in a new home now. Ronnie
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Post by sixshot on Sept 16, 2015 23:37:38 GMT -5
Gas check bullets can be very useful (and necessary) in some guns/calibers. All is not equal when it comes to bullets. If you are one that likes extreme velocity out of your cast bullets then a GC will almost always be better. If you want to shoot a soft bullet & run it somewhat on the fast side a GC is about the only way to get there. If you are shooting something like the 357 Maximum you will need a GC to really make your gun work or you might as well be shooting a 357 magnum, that extra velocity comes at a cost. Some guns just don't like plain base bullets, others will shoot plain base just as well as they will with a GC, you just never know. I always try to shoot plain base slugs but the proof is in the shooting, hitting the target is pretty important.
Dick
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Post by zeus on Sept 17, 2015 8:04:33 GMT -5
Miha has what he needs to do a .477-640 with a gas check. I have one. As do I when we did the original runs, I just wanted to ask him and make sure it was ok to mix in this order. We did them as separate orders back then, remember I've added this option to the current active buy on the CB forum. Miha said it was no problem to have both options at once on this one. Thanks! GS
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Post by Markbo on Sept 17, 2015 11:35:01 GMT -5
Seeing as my estimated velocity will probably never exceed 1100fps or so and they will likely all be PC'd I see no reason for a gas check personally. I guess should I ever want to try this bullets' GC sister in the .475 at the speed of light, I might need to. But I don't see that happening either?
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Post by bushog on Sept 17, 2015 13:36:30 GMT -5
Remember what?
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jsh
.327 Meteor
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Post by jsh on Sept 17, 2015 19:59:06 GMT -5
Getting off track a bit on part, sorry about that. In my findings, 35 and larger caliber with even a somewhat soft alloy (hunting type alloy)has shot as well if not better than harder alloys at mid range to average speeds. When I say shot I refer to group size with zero to very small amount of leading. I look forward to getting time again to shoot as much as I would like too, only being able to run some PC'd stuff through the wringer. I have nothing agains GC's, though I do think more are used than necessary. As you mention Dick, there are certain instances they are needed or at least of great help. Last big group buy I got in on GC's I bought right around 30k, 30,35 and 44. So if any say I never used any. Heck I needed/ wanted some for the 250 41 mag LBT just because it was a GC design, this past month. Then while having him pick them up had him go ahead and get some .475's and I don't even have mold that needs them. Must be the Boy Scout in me, be prepared. Now back to our regularly scheduled program........;-)
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Post by sixshot on Sept 18, 2015 1:47:46 GMT -5
I'm with you, I try not to use them if I can get away with it & most times I can but there are some exceptions as I mentioned. Those big 475 GC's cost enough to gas up my truck! In the past I've referred to powser coating as the poor man's gas check. It won't replace one but it will allow you to shoot a soft bullet faster than you could using a normal lube. For me at least with these 70 year old eyes, most times I can't shoot the difference between a plain base bullet & a gas check bullet with an iron sighted sixgun, some of you young roosters probably can.
Dick
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