H&R/NEF Rifles

[nobearsyet]

i will keep that in mind. Any suggestions as to what would make a good BPCR rifle and still fit within the confines of the rules? I am thinking (but am not sure) that the ruger No. 1 might qualify as it is essentially a falling block rifle design. Am I right?

[wickerbill]

The Ruger is a good gun, unfortunately it dosn't have an external hammer. It is also not a pre-1898 design.( I forgot to mention that requirement in the last post)

Browning make a real nice BPCR, chambered in 40-65, 45-70 and 45-90. They are not in production anymore, but there are always several for sale on the net. Like I said before, for me it is hard to beat a Sharps rifle. I have a Pedersoli 1874 Sharps Silhouette Heavy barrel in 45-70. It weighs 12 pounds and shoots real good. I shoot a 525 gr Hoch nose poor with four grease groves that hold a lot of SPG.(good stuff). I shoot Wincheser cases, because they hold about five more grains of powder. I shoot 67 gr of Swiss 1 1/2 ffg black powder with Fed LRM primers.

ONE WARNING: This can get a little expencive. You know, sort off like custom six shooters.
Bill

[nobearsyet]

I figured this would get expensive, a sharps huh? I will have to look at what the local pusher can get me, and what I might be able to trade for it, is there a particular model that seems to suit itself well to this game? And do you have any idea where I might find blackpowder load data without having to buy another book? The last one didn't really tell me anything and I really don't want to get ripped off on another book like that.

[wickerbill]

www.blackpowderspg.com/mlvbooks.html#3
The black powder reloaders primer. You also might want to try a subscription to the black powder cartrage news. There is a lot of information in it.
Bill

[nobearsyet]

Thanks

[nobearsyet]

I went to the loca lpusher's yesterday, too cancel some things, and pick up some cash for some holsters I built him, and low and behold he had a rolling block carbine sitting there, it's one of the old italian guns (Pedersoli I think) with the short barrel. Any suggetsions as to whether or not this might work well for BPCR, he said we might be able to work out a trade as I have a bolt gun the owner wants.

[wickerbill]

Again, if it's got a 1:18 twist, it'll work.
Bill

[nobearsyet]

Not sure of the twist on the Pedersolis, and unfortunately he won't let me check it in the shop, says we gotta swap first

[wickerbill]

I just checked the pedersoli sight and they list all of their rolling blocks in 45-70 with 1:18 twist.
Bill

[nobearsyet]

Thanks bill, looks like I need to dig that pre 64 model 70 out of the closet

[nobearsyet]

Went out yesterday to the pusher's. No longer own a certain pre-64 model 70, but am now patiently waiting on a 1874 Sharps Heavy Target model to come in chambered in 45-110. Got to figure out what to use for sights though. Anything better than Pedersoli's for this game.

[wickerbill]

I use a Perdersoli long range Soule rear and a Baldwin front sight.
www.baldwin-sights.com/
The Pedersoli long range Soule is much cheaper than the Baldwin or the Montana Vintage Arms vertions and I think it works just as good. It is repeatable and it is a true vernier.
Bill

[nobearsyet]

Now for a real stupid question, can you tell me the ins and outs of a vernier sight as I've never used one?

[wickerbill]

That is not a stupid question at all. I know guys that have been shooting these rifles for years and don't know how to read a vernier scale.

I know the picture isn't the best, but the light in my office is not the best. The scale on the fixed staff are spaced at .050" and the scale on the movable peice is set at .040". So the example shows the moving scale a 3 even with the third tick mark past 0. That means you read it as 0.15 inches.
In the second picture(worst than the first) the 0 on the moving scale is even with the fifth mark on the fixed scale. This means the sight is at 0.25"

So you see, it's fairly straight forword. You know, simple, like radar.
Bill

[nobearsyet]

Okay, now even dumber question but what do those numbers mean? Is it just sight height? How do they translate to adjustments at range? Man I need educated.