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Post by 2 Dogs on Jul 20, 2018 14:42:23 GMT -5
I think that Fermin is actually a "relay" shooter, first he runs 5 rounds down range at 50 yds but because his loads are so anemic he has to walk down there & gather them up, reload them & shoot the other 50 yds to get his 100 yd group. Works great & he's happy shooting those mild loads he's always bragging on. Kind of saves the wrists when the recoil of a heavy 327 magnum is rapping your knuckles........Yip, Yip! Yes I'm ready! Dick All this shows is that my loads are 5X as stout as Dicks. His good cast slugs only go 10 yards and he has to go fetch them. That's why his cast bullets are so pretty. Cuts down on deformation for their soft landing. Not only that, it's great exercise, keeps his weight down and his mule just loves that light as a feather passenger.... |
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Post by JDG on Oct 3, 2018 22:38:00 GMT -5
Finally found this thread again, How do you guys feel about the size of the paper plate? Isn't it much smaller than to your front sight when you take a sight picture? or is this more of a personal vision thing?
On a side note, what size targets and sights do you guys prefer for 100 yard work?
I'm thinking an upside down T shape.
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Post by 2 Dogs on Oct 12, 2018 2:44:05 GMT -5
Finally found this thread again, How do you guys feel about the size of the paper plate? Isn't it much smaller than to your front sight when you take a sight picture? or is this more of a personal vision thing? On a side note, what size targets and sights do you guys prefer for 100 yard work? I'm thinking an upside down T shape. I perch the paper plate on top of my front sight. The way I sight some of my guns I have to have a paper plate underneath the one I’m aiming at for the bullets to land on. The upside down T works really well for me to. Bill Fowler and I were working on a steel plate target with a “flasher” design. So when you hit the T intersection a “flag” would show itself via the swinging of the T portion of the plate. |
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Post by leftysixgun on Oct 14, 2018 21:11:00 GMT -5
Question for you guys shooting iron sight at 100yds.
I may be making a mountain out of a mole hill here but, with a 6 o'clock hold when do you consider the gun zeroed?
When the hits are in the middle of the 10"-12" circle, on the lower half of the plate (like the bullets are landing on the front sight), or just simply hitting the plate anywhere?
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Post by bradshaw on Oct 14, 2018 23:28:19 GMT -5
Question for you guys shooting iron sight at 100yds. I may be making a mountain out of a mole hill here but, with a 6 o'clock hold when do you consider the gun zeroed? When the hits are in the middle of the 10"-12" circle, on the lower half of the plate (like the bullets are landing on the front sight), or just simply hitting the plate anywhere? ***** When I ZERO sixgun irons for 100 yards as a field zero, I want the bullet to land on the front sight. Back when I shot silhouette, I generally used a “touch meat” 6 o’clock hold. Notice I said TOUCH MEAT. The most common bullseye ZERO is a 6 o’clock TANGENT HOLD, which may allow for a sliver of light between the PLANE of the front sight and a round bull. A paper bullseye presents a predictable graphic----positive/negative black & white----with target and ground on the same plane. Whereas visibility of a steel silhouette may shift from contrast to camouflage against the background, a visual challenge much more similar to hunting than a bullseye painted on paper offers. To hold a sliver of light----ala bullseye----between front sight and target risks losing track of actual ZERO----not being able to repeat the hold----when the target is a steel silhouette or a deer. The reason for a “touch meat 6 o’clock hold” on silhouettes is to provide the greatest target visibility over long strings of fire. The better you can see your target, the easier it is to focus the front sight at final squeeze. David Bradshaw |
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Post by leftysixgun on Oct 15, 2018 6:03:19 GMT -5
Thanks David
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Post by JDG on Oct 17, 2018 19:15:33 GMT -5
Tried my 1982 Single-Six out at 100 today offhand with fiocchi standard velocity on a 14" plate. The front sight is almost exactly the size of my 12" plate so I swapped out for the 14" Overcast with hardly any wind. First time shooting at 100 yards with a handgun (after shooting a 2" group at 25):  6x6- 12" offhand with 12 O'clock hold Second try six more  6x6- 8-1/4" 5x6- 6" Offhand with the front sight bisecting the plate Figure I need to bring the rear sight up a click or two Couldn't hear the plate or see it moving (forgot the spotting scope) so I was quite surprised when i got close enough to see. |
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Post by Joe S. on Oct 17, 2018 19:43:07 GMT -5
Great shooting!!
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Post by JDG on Oct 17, 2018 22:09:50 GMT -5
Thanks, I'm hoping to revive this thread. Although I don't have a bench rest setup and creedmoor stance doesn't seem to work well for me. EDIT: forgot the rest of the details SS is set up with SBH undercut front sight with the MK II target .90" rear blade. |
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Post by 2 Dogs on Oct 18, 2018 14:31:21 GMT -5
Thanks, I'm hoping to revive this thread. Although I don't have a bench rest setup and creedmoor stance doesn't seem to work well for me. EDIT: forgot the rest of the details SS is set up with SBH undercut front sight with the MK II target .90" rear blade. I would say that a guy like you, who can shoot like that, might be astounded if you fit the 22 ammunition to your sixgun. I keep telling everybody who shoots 22LR that you should own a "Paco Tool" and that Paco himself is not getting any younger. pacotools.com/ |
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Post by JDG on Oct 18, 2018 15:24:47 GMT -5
Thanks, I'm hoping to revive this thread. Although I don't have a bench rest setup and creedmoor stance doesn't seem to work well for me. EDIT: forgot the rest of the details SS is set up with SBH undercut front sight with the MK II target .90" rear blade. I would say that a guy like you, who can shoot like that, might be astounded if you fit the 22 ammunition to your sixgun. I keep telling everybody who shoots 22LR that you should own a "Paco Tool" and that Paco himself is not getting any younger. pacotools.com/I've tried a few other brands, Fiocchi and CCI Standard seem to do the best groups and seem to fit my cylinder throats precisely although the throat of one chamber is tighter than the others. Seems like the paco tool could make the cheaper stuff do well too. If it does its worth its weight in gold.  |
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Post by 2 Dogs on Oct 18, 2018 16:13:10 GMT -5
I would say that a guy like you, who can shoot like that, might be astounded if you fit the 22 ammunition to your sixgun. I keep telling everybody who shoots 22LR that you should own a "Paco Tool" and that Paco himself is not getting any younger. pacotools.com/I've tried a few other brands, Fiocchi and CCI Standard seem to do the best groups and seem to fit my cylinder throats precisely although the throat of one chamber is tighter than the others. Seems like the paco tool could make the cheaper stuff do well too. If it does its worth its weight in gold. 22 throats need to be uniform too. Let me know if you need help with that. |
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Post by JDG on Oct 21, 2018 0:00:44 GMT -5
 Around 11" Offhand Varying bright sunlight from the left A bit of wind. Center Hold, had to add 2 clicks to the left either because of the wind or my inconsistency. So, I've been having some consistency issues trying to best my target from the other day. Although other day it was completely overcast and almost zero wind. This target was done after a 2" group at 25 so I'm thinking the light may be responsible for some of the stringing. Really have a lack of experience shooting past 25 Yards... |
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Post by bradshaw on Oct 21, 2018 7:36:30 GMT -5
JDG..... an overcast day neutralizes your sight picture, equalizes the shaft of light to either side of the front blade, and sharpens the PLANE of the FRONT SIGHT----the visual surface which determines POA (Point of Aim). Bright sun always affects aim, a subject SINGLEACTIONS must focus on one of these days. I have threatened to address the subject and will try to get to it. Meanwhile, keep shooting, and precede live fire with a short set of DRY FIRE....
to visually train
* SIGHT PICTURE----critical for iron sights at long range.
* FOCUS on front sight.
* SQUEEZE & FOLLOW THROUGH.
David Bradshaw
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Post by lazytcross on Oct 31, 2018 11:26:42 GMT -5
 5 shots. 100 yards. Sitting on my butt with a back rest. Shooting between my knees. Load. WC820 23.5 grains REM 2 1/2 Lee 440gc with simple lube. Starline brass. Gun 5” .500 jrh bfr I tried to repeat the group to no avail. This might be the best I do with it! |
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