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Post by mark on Jul 10, 2012 12:52:46 GMT -5
Does anyone have one of Gary Reeder's long frame guns? Are those frames identical to Ruger Maximum frames? I will admit that the Grim Reaper (with out the ports and goofy grafics) is interesting in 500 S&W. Is that cylinder as long as S&W's X-Frame. I am not yet sure that I really want to spend $2500 for one of his guns but it is tempting. Thanks, Mark
Sorry, meant to say Grim Reaper not Skorpion!
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Post by whitworth on Jul 10, 2012 13:07:14 GMT -5
Does anyone have one of Gary Reeder's long frame guns? Are those frames identical to Ruger Maximum frames? I will admit that the Skorpion (with out the ports and goofy grafics) is interesting in 500 S&W. Is that cylinder as long as S&W's X-Frame. I am not yet sure that I really want to spend $2500 for one of his guns but it is tempting. Thanks, Mark I think the cylinder is a little longer than the Maximum cylinder (that is typically used in 5-shot conversions). There is a thread somewhere in the Gallery forum here where Axehandle measured both of his -- he has a Huntington .500 Max and a Reeder .500 Max. It is definitely a bunch shorter than an X-Frame cylinder. Keep in mind, the X-frame was meant to accomodate both the .500 Smith (1.62-inch case) as well as the .460 (1.80-inch case).
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Post by bigbores on Jul 10, 2012 13:10:29 GMT -5
I have a Gary's T-Rex And no they have a little more cylinder window. There a old Pre JT BFR in a size frame BFR never made "a mid sized BFR frame if you will". As for the price, well if you figure you don't have to supply a Max frame the price is pretty reasonable. I like the one I have. Here's a picure with a 357max cyl. in the window showing the size of the window.
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Post by maxcactus on Jul 10, 2012 13:12:14 GMT -5
Does anyone have one of Gary Reeder's long frame guns? Are those frames identical to Ruger Maximum frames? I will admit that the Skorpion (with out the ports and goofy grafics) is interesting in 500 S&W. Is that cylinder as long as S&W's X-Frame. I am not yet sure that I really want to spend $2500 for one of his guns but it is tempting. Thanks, Mark Uhhh... I thought the Skorpion was the GP-100 sized tool in .44 Spl caliber? Am I confused? I read JT's write up and said to myself "Self, I needs one of those!" I certainly don't need anything in a stretch frame .500 whatever... at least not at the moment. Max.
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Post by bigbores on Jul 10, 2012 13:28:22 GMT -5
Does anyone have one of Gary Reeder's long frame guns? Are those frames identical to Ruger Maximum frames? I will admit that the Skorpion (with out the ports and goofy grafics) is interesting in 500 S&W. Is that cylinder as long as S&W's X-Frame. I am not yet sure that I really want to spend $2500 for one of his guns but it is tempting. Thanks, Mark Uhhh... I thought the Skorpion was the GP-100 sized tool in .44 Spl caliber? Am I confused? I read JT's write up and said to myself "Self, I needs one of those!" I certainly don't need anything in a stretch frame .500 whatever... at least not at the moment. Max. Yep the Skorpion is a small double action here's a better picture my Reeder stretch frame.
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Post by whitworth on Jul 10, 2012 13:34:32 GMT -5
The cylinder window is filled on the customs based on the Ruger Max frame as well as can be seen in this photo (that is the cylinder length I was refering to and not the stock .357 Max length cylinder.
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Post by bigbores on Jul 10, 2012 13:46:46 GMT -5
The cylinder window is filled on the customs based on the Ruger Max frame as well as can be seen in this photo (that is the cylinder length I was refering to and not the stock .357 Max length cylinder. You mean like this?
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Post by whitworth on Jul 10, 2012 13:50:34 GMT -5
My .500 cylinder is considerably longer than my stock .357 Max cylinder. I do believe in my first post I stated that the Reeder cylinder is longer still.
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Post by whitworth on Jul 10, 2012 13:57:48 GMT -5
Here is the a quote from the thread Axehandle put up before:
"Well, that spreadsheet idea didn't work worth didly... Lets see how well the numbers stay in place when I post... FWIW The stock Max was Dawgs old Harton 357 Max, a stand alone classic by itself.. Add the Huntington and Reeder 500s and... Wish you guys could have seen the three long cylinder single actions side by side on the bench.. I'll get a picture another day...
Well, formatting goes to pot when it is posted... Hopefully those who are interested will be able to figure it out.
Cylinder Cylinder Window Length Diameter Height Length Reeder 500 Max 2.200 1.800 1.815 2.310 Huntington 500 Max 2.112 1.776 1.795 2.145 Stock 357 Max 1.935 1.730 1.770 2.140"
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Post by mark on Jul 10, 2012 13:59:55 GMT -5
Thanks for all of the pictures and descriptions. It helps clear up my confussion. Yes, $2500 isn't all that bad when you consider you don't have to supply the frame. This website is always costing me money. Mark
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Post by whitworth on Jul 10, 2012 14:00:53 GMT -5
Thanks for all of the pictures and descriptions. It helps clear up my confussion. Yes, $2500 isn't all that bad when you consider you don't have to supply the frame. This website is always costing me money. Mark Haha! That is what this sight will do!
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Post by Lee Martin on Jul 10, 2012 14:01:27 GMT -5
Not to rehash an old argument, but there's no need to go longer than a full-windowed Ruger Maximum. I'm not knocking Gary's deisgn, but OAL is still limited by the crimp groove. And bigbores, that octagonal barrel looks really nice. It balances the profile well. -Lee www.singleactions.com"Building carpal tunnel one round at a time"
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Post by bigbores on Jul 10, 2012 14:01:48 GMT -5
My .500 cylinder is considerably longer than my stock .357 Max cylinder. I do believe in my first post I stated that the Reeder cylinder is longer still. No you said "I think the cylinder is a little longer than the Maximum cylinder". I was confirming so and giving a visual. Gary's cylinders are thicker also. Now comparing Gary's workmanship to Jacks and there's no comparison, Jack's work is muck better.
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Post by whitworth on Jul 10, 2012 14:11:52 GMT -5
Yes a little longer that the Maximum cylinder -- and then in parethesis, I said "that is typically used in 5-shot conversions." The cylinder you stuffed in that framne looks shorter than the one in my max -- would you be so kind as to measure it? Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me.
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Post by AxeHandle on Jul 10, 2012 14:13:18 GMT -5
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