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Post by AxeHandle on Mar 31, 2012 7:44:37 GMT -5
So many variables here... Slight subtle nuances can sway the results one way or the other.. For me the 44 will always have a home as will the 41s, 45s, 475s, and 50s. Is any one better than the others for all things? I think we all know the answer to that question. I'm just thankful that I am blessed and don't have to choose.  |
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Post by Lee Martin on Mar 31, 2012 8:56:34 GMT -5
Actually, Whit and I did very contolled testing. Same ammunition maker, same bullet weight, same nose profile, same hardness, same velocity range, same test medium, same everthing. Each time the 45 Colt out-penetrated the 44 (and by a material amount). -Lee www.singleactions.com |
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Post by Snyd on Mar 31, 2012 10:58:45 GMT -5
Lee and Whit. In your various testings. Have you ever experimented with velocity and pushed a wfn or lfn to where it penetrates less than at a lower velocity? I wonder where the tipping point is with say a 20bhn wfn. I'm sure bhn and different nose profile would have some bearing on the results.
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Post by dougader on Mar 31, 2012 15:06:14 GMT -5
Everyone has a 44 Mag. You're doing the right thing by up-sizing. Speaking of 44's, I shoot a lot of Special but hardly ever work with Magnum. If I want smaller bore I go 41. If I need more horsepower, I go 45 Colt and up. For some reason I just skip over the 44 Magnum. -Lee www.singleactions.comThat's exactly what I do, Lee. I always think I'm going to get another 44 mag, but when I do - and then later need to sell something - its always thee 44 mag that goes first. I'm all in on 44 Special and 45/454. I just need to get that 475 or 512 in the mix now... |
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Post by kaytod on Mar 31, 2012 20:32:20 GMT -5
There is a point where an increase in velocity will decrease your bullets penetration. This threshold is unique to each bullet design.
One case that demonstrated this was several years ago at John Linebaugh's seminar in Cody.
We were at the Powell range (where John shoots) and I was shooting three factory loads from James Gates "Dixie Slugs"
The three loads were all identical with the exception of velocity.
A hardcast 12 ga 1 3/4 ounce slug with what I call a domed wadcutter profile. The three loads has velocities were 1200, 1300 and 1400 fps respectivley from a 20" barrel.
The wet paper was a 24 hour soak and was replaced after each shot.
The 1200fps load penetrated 36" of soaked paper.
The 1300fps load penetrated 34" of soaked paper.
The 1400fps load penetrated 32" of soaked paper.
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Post by Snyd on Mar 31, 2012 22:41:53 GMT -5
That "magic 1200fps". I've got one load, a .452 355gr WFN that's just over 1200 in my 4" 454 Redhawk and about 1650 in my 20" Puma levergun. When warms up I'll have to do some tests. I thing I've got about 12 ft of phone books stockpiled  okay, hijack over. My 44 NM flattop shipped yesterday and should be here next week. Then for the Bisley parts. I talked to a friend today while skiing and a few days ago he snowmachined up to his cabin and in the mtns behind and found a winter kill Dall Sheep Ram. An old bugger, double broomer with big horns. Good for him, bad for me. He's gonna put the horns on a plaque instead of give me one to have cut up for grips. Hopefully I can find my own. |
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