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Post by whitworth on Mar 29, 2012 8:04:32 GMT -5
Tight chambers or not, I don't see any issues with shooting .45 Colt in any .454. This is a time honored tradition in .357 magnums and .44 Magnums (.38s and .44 Specials). Just clean it well when you are done and it shouldn't even cause a bump in the road. JMHO.
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Post by buck on Mar 29, 2012 9:14:53 GMT -5
Sounds like these guns may be accurate enough for 100 yard shots.
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Post by whitworth on Mar 29, 2012 9:26:12 GMT -5
Sounds like these guns may be accurate enough for 100 yard shots. They are hands down the most well put together revolver out of the box.
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Post by bigmuddy on Mar 29, 2012 9:41:07 GMT -5
Sounds like these guns may be accurate enough for 100 yard shots. 100 yards and beyond! I am sure you will be pleased. The aforementioned Winchester factory load is also one of the least expensive I have found. My reason for trying them..when I bought my first FA gun I could not wait for my brass to arrive to shoot the gun. I went to a gun shop and bought the cheapest factory ammo on the shelf. That load from my 6" gun shot 1279 fps with an extreme spread of only 18. It is VERY accurate as is the gun. Shooting 45 Colt ammo in the FA guns comes up quite often. The real answer always is; your gun and you can shoot it anyway you want to. However, through circumstances (long story) I won't go into, I have a FA 454 with two 454 cylinders. I use one for 454 ammo only, and in the other one I have been shooting about 95% 45 Colt. Every now and then I shoot 454 ammo in that cylinder just to see if there are any problems, and to date have had none. I live in an area that the humidity in the summer runs 80 to 90 % most of the time. If you are at all worried though just shoot lighter loaded 454 ammo. One question that came up on other forums on this topic that never got answered; Does this same "etching" occur at the mouth of the 454 cases? Great gun you have there Buck! My 7.5" FA 454 is the MOST accurate handgun I have ever fired. Dan
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Post by schunter on Mar 29, 2012 12:03:40 GMT -5
Congratulations Buck! My first FA was a 10" barreled Casull...which has prompted the purchase of many others...and the resale of none! In addition to the Winchester loading, try the Fusion factory ammo - lighter recoiling than the standard Casull loads. It has worked well for me on both hogs and deer. www.fusionammo.com/ballistics/handgun.aspx?id=610
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Post by buck on Mar 31, 2012 14:28:09 GMT -5
I took it out having found one box of the aforementioned Super X and it wasn't too bad as far as recoil. Now the Winchester Supreme had some recoil, but tolerable for a cylinderful in a hunting situation. I'll have to check out the Federal Fusion load.
I'm real happy with this gun! Thanks for talking me into it!
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Post by whitworth on Mar 31, 2012 20:32:34 GMT -5
Haha! Glad to hear that you are happy with it! Congratulations once again!
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Post by bagdadjoe on Apr 1, 2012 10:39:14 GMT -5
Unfortunately I don't reload. I understand there is no moderately loaded ammo in 454. You could get set up in a modest way for the price of a couple-three boxes of factory shells. Lee makes a little press for around $30, a set of dies around 30 or so and a powder scale will get you going, Lee makes an inexpensive one, and add a powder meaure to throw charges and you're pretty much in business. I keep seeing whole set ups very reasonably, sporadically, on the local classifieds websites. With Cabela's selling 200 rounds for $250 I don't think it would take long to recoup your investment. I've got a single stage press I've loaded every round of my reloads with since the early 80's and it's still going strong. I have one of the little Lee presses..wait..I loaned it out to a fellow so he could start learning to load...about 2 years ago. Time for it to come home ;D
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Post by buck on Apr 1, 2012 19:38:18 GMT -5
I had one of those little Lee loader kits back in the 70's for 38 or 357. One day I hammered a little too hard and BAM! That primer I seated went off.
In addition, in the years since every kaboom I have personal knowledge of involved handloads. One guy had a loading gate stuck in his face from an 1886 repro .45-70. Plus I don't have a shop space to bolt down tools.
I thought it odd that you load 4 to be on an empty chamber. It seems like you would load 1 skip 1, load 3.
Great gun. I can't wait to try it out on paper, I was at a plinking range yesterday.
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Post by wickerbill on Apr 1, 2012 22:23:14 GMT -5
How nasty is a 454 compared to a 44 mag recoilwise? They're two totally different animals. With both loaded to their potential, the 454 is much heavier than recoil than the 44, but it's still very manageable. Bill
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Post by Thunderjet on Apr 2, 2012 0:24:38 GMT -5
Try having a friend video tape you when firing a 454 then play it back in slow motion. It is almost scary how far back the muzzle comes back and almost clonks you in the head.
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Post by buck on Apr 2, 2012 4:11:30 GMT -5
I recall a tragic story of a young boy getting killed when the hammer hit him in the head shooting a .454.
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Post by whitworth on Apr 2, 2012 5:52:37 GMT -5
The .454 is undoubtedly capable of generating debilitating recoil, but it is not at the top of the heap as far as recoil is concerned. Just slowly work your way up the load ladder and you will be fine. That is one fine piece of machinery you purchased!
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Post by hammerdown77 on Apr 2, 2012 7:31:56 GMT -5
I had my 454 FA almost get away from me a couple of times yesterday. Combination of a little perspiration on the hands, heavy loads, slick wood grips, and slight lapse in concentration on my grip. Funny thing was, it didn't feel like that to me when I was shooting it. But my brother was taking some video, and watching it afterward I thought "Dang, that one almost tagged me..."
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Post by suba on Apr 3, 2012 20:04:08 GMT -5
1st post here but have been lurking for years. Great forum with great guys. It's always been a pleasure visiting this site. Having had both a 44 and 454 FA ( sold the 44 ) I can say this. Hand loading is a great benefit to any gun and especially with a 454. It's not that difficult or expensive so come on in the waters fine (!)
I mostly shoot 400gr that I sometimes load down with 2.8gr TB, or up with 4227 or 110. Choose whatever round and velocity you like, but you gotta hand load. If you listen to Bob Baker and you should don't shoot 45 Colt in your 454. Either get a 45 cylinder or hand load 454. Just my opinion.
btw....nice FA. Take care of it and it will take care of you...
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