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Post by Lee Martin on Jan 28, 2012 17:31:57 GMT -5
In Ross Seyfried's 1991 article on the 500 Max he noted it was one of the most accurate revolvers he had ever worked with. At the time I just wrote it off to Ross being a world class shooter. I mean, who talks about accuracy with a round like that? Most just hope to become proficient enough to place shots on target. Well, today I started to see what Ross was talking about. This 8 shot group was at 50 yards off the bench (38.0 of AA1680 with a 525 WFN....likely 1,300 - 1,350 fps):   Ransom rested I think the cartridge with that load would tear ragged little holes. No doubt the gun is more capable than my hold can ring out. After another 50 rounds of work with it, I couldn't be happier with the results. The only thing that wasn't very happy was my middle knuckle. This is even with it being taped underneath a glove:  -Lee www.singleactions.com |
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Post by paulg on Jan 28, 2012 17:54:40 GMT -5
Does that come under the heading of "no pain no gain"?
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Post by AxeHandle on Jan 28, 2012 18:33:41 GMT -5
Ouch! That is going to be sore for a few weeks... You considered a grip frame with a little more room between your knuckle and the trigger guard? Reeder says that the one he uses has more room and eases some of that knuckle bashing. I think it is pretty close to the Ruger Hunter configuration..
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Post by Shakey on Jan 28, 2012 19:57:30 GMT -5
I am so impressed that you could maintain the concentration to shoot a group like that while getting such a beating.
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Post by dougader on Jan 28, 2012 20:43:15 GMT -5
You're much tougher than me, and a heck of a shot! Your revolvers not only look great, but they shoot too!
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Post by whitworth on Jan 28, 2012 21:31:12 GMT -5
Nice work, Lee! Oh, and good job on the knuckle! ;D
Yes indeed, no pain, no gain!
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Post by bigbores on Jan 29, 2012 0:24:40 GMT -5
Come on Lee, knuckles are over rated!
I think you could cut them off and build something like Bruce Campbell had for his chainsaw in army of darkness! ;D ;D ;D
Joking aside I have a permanent red mark on my middle knuckle from shooting sessions like that one, anymore I down load a bit, keeps it more pleasant.
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Post by AxeHandle on Jan 29, 2012 7:36:30 GMT -5
After a little sleep I'm thinking that knuckle adds significantly to my reservations about the 500 Max. It would be one thing if it was a fruitcake newbie but in this case we have an experienced big bore shooter.. I think I'll look a little harder into Gary Reeder's grip frame. Maybe go so far as to buy one just to measure and compare to the Hunter. Perhaps consider building some 357 and 32s.. Maybe a custom 22LR...  |
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Post by dmize on Jan 29, 2012 8:51:27 GMT -5
Aww Axe I think you should be able to handle a 22 Mag.
And I understand about Bisley frames and heavy recoil,but THAT is my biggest gripe with that frame,I guess its a hurt if you do and hurt if you dont knda thing.
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Post by jwp475 on Jan 29, 2012 10:09:21 GMT -5
A custom grip that properly fits ones hand with a bit of palm swell goes a long way in eliminating being hit in the knuckle by the trigger guard
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Post by Lee Martin on Jan 30, 2012 9:06:57 GMT -5
I am so impressed that you could maintain the concentration to shoot a group like that while getting such a beating. Well, don't think I can duplicate groups like that at will My dad taught me years ago to apply mind over matter on guns like this (ie, it'll recoil the same whether you jerk the pull or use a steady let off). Plus I've been shooting really heavy stuff for over 20 years now. Practice and tens of thousands of rounds of abuse makes you numb to big recoil....at least it has for me. Couple of tips though that I've learned. At 50 yards it's really hard to stay consistent on a target, even with a 6 o'clock hold. What has worked well for me is the 1" orange dot you see above. At 50 yards it looks like a pinpoint. So small in fact that when you put the front sight under it there's only one position that'll align everything. If you're too high all the sudden the sight completely obscures the dot. If you're too low and start to see white paper, you're off. The other thing is the grip on the gun. I use the technique Ross Seyfried described years ago (assuming you're right handed, the one where the left hand wraps the other and "locks" the hold). I grasp firm but not very tight on the trigger hand. The left hand wraps it and provides the pressure. So of the two, the non-trigger hand applies the majority of the control. From there all I focus on are the front sight and the trigger. And on the latter, my customs are all set to 2 lbs with no creep. Give it a try. -Lee www.singleactions.com |
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Post by AxeHandle on Jan 30, 2012 13:24:26 GMT -5
Gary wrote that his magnum grip frame provides 3/8 inch more room behind the trigger guard. I'm assuming that is compared to a Bisley.
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Post by Shakey on Jan 30, 2012 13:54:35 GMT -5
Appreciate the pointers on technique but, for me anyway, the "mind over matter" has always been the most difficult part, at least 'till the eyesight & 'nerves' started sneaking off. One of those "easier said than done" things for sure.
It don't matter how good your technique starts out, you won't do well if you concentration doesn't allow you to maintain it all the way through the shot. ...Still very impressed.
Oh! I admire the gun as well, just not as much as the man behind it.
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Post by Lee Martin on Jan 30, 2012 13:57:27 GMT -5
Gary wrote that his magnum grip frame provides 3/8 inch more room behind the trigger guard. I'm assuming that is compared to a Bisley. Is his Magnum gripframe the Super Blackhawk looking one? -Lee www.singleactions.com |
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Post by Markbo on Jan 30, 2012 15:26:43 GMT -5
Gary wrote that his magnum grip frame provides 3/8 inch more room behind the trigger guard. I'm assuming that is compared to a Bisley. Huh? Can you post pics of them so we can see the difference? |
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