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Post by cvarcher on Dec 14, 2011 15:43:13 GMT -5
Wow, I just found today that Colt is making brand ne NEw Fronters and they carry the better Elliason rear sights that may even adjust lower than my originals. I wonder if they are an exact size swap out. JEff do you know?? I Called Colt but the guy didnt know the answer.
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Post by dale53 on Dec 14, 2011 16:02:57 GMT -5
>>>I Called Colt but the guy didnt know the answer.<<<
That is just flat PITIFUL!
Dale53
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Post by taffin on Dec 14, 2011 16:19:25 GMT -5
1) WHAT IS THE HEIGHTH OF YOUR SIGHT? I HAVE TWO 4-3/4" .45 2ND GEN NFs AND THEY BOTH MEASURE 1.255" FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE BARREL TO THE TOP OF THE SIGHT. IF YOURS IS SUCH I WOULD GUESS IT IS EITHER THE WAY YOU SEE THE SIGHTS AND/OR THE WAY YOU HOLD THE SIXGUN.
2) I PUT AN ELLIASON ON ONE OF MY 3RD GEN .44 SPECIALS. NO PROBLEM.
3) WHAT ARE YOU USING FOR BULLET ALLOY? A 292 GR #45-270 TELLS ME YOUR ALLOY IS WAY SOFT. MINE ARE 284 LUBED AND SIZED USING RELATIVELY SOFT WHEELWEIGHTS.
4) COLT HAS ANNOUNCED A 4-3/4" NF BUT THUS FAR HAS ONLY PRODUCED 7-1/2" .45s AND 5-1/2" .44s
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Post by taffin on Dec 14, 2011 16:21:17 GMT -5
Wow, I just found today that Colt is making brand ne NEw Fronters and they carry the better Elliason rear sights that may even adjust lower than my originals. I wonder if they are an exact size swap out. JEff do you know?? I Called Colt but the guy didnt know the answer. IF YOU JUST FOUND OUT TODAY YOU DON'T READ ENOUGH. THEY HAVE BEEN OUT SINCE EARLY LAST SUMMER. |
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Post by cvarcher on Dec 14, 2011 19:08:45 GMT -5
Ok, I just measure my front sight at 1.257" . I just weighed out the Mt Baldy 45- 270SAA and they are 282 grain. Sorry about not knowing. I read too much but its never the right stuff!! BEsides-Ive always been a Johnny come lately!!LOL. Anyway Im not worried as I have a second Gen 1963 45 colt NF w/4 3/4" barrel. So I can wait . Im going to try and drop the loads and see if the groups drop as well.Thats a safer try.I might also be able to grind down the underbelly of the rear sight since I have about .015" space between the bottom of the rear sight and the frame where its cutout at the rear. Maybe that willbe enough. I was just wondering if the Elliason will give more lower adjustments than the factory old style Accro. Where can I buy Elliasons anyway?
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Post by weagle99 on Dec 14, 2011 22:10:36 GMT -5
Please do not ruin your very collectible Colt by modifying the front sight! Because it will, in fact, be ruined.
Signed-
A Colt purist
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Post by CraigC on Dec 14, 2011 23:32:04 GMT -5
The collector value will surely be affected, which is meaningless to a shooter. Ruined? Hardly.
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Post by taffin on Dec 14, 2011 23:44:53 GMT -5
The collector value will surely be affected, which is meaningless to a shooter. Ruined? Hardly. YEP! GUNS ARE FOR SHOOTING NOT FOR COLLECTING. ITS ALREADY BEEN SHOT AND MODIFIED SLIGHTLY SO A NEW FRONT SIGHT IS NOT GOING TO "RUIN " IT. MOST OF MY SIXGUNS HAVE BEEN MODIFIED TO SUIT ME AND THEY WILL GO TO GRANDKIDS WHEN I AM GONE NOT SOME COLLECTOR. |
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Post by dale53 on Dec 15, 2011 0:33:44 GMT -5
>>>YEP! GUNS ARE FOR SHOOTING NOT FOR COLLECTING.<<<
That's certainly my take on it...
Dale53
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Post by weagle99 on Dec 15, 2011 7:10:14 GMT -5
Guys, only (85) of these guns were ever made by Colt, making it a very rare post-war Colt single action. Decades later that number is now even smaller.
Let's say for the sake of argument that there is a similar number of NIB or LNIB 1st Gen SAAs on this planet. If you somehow found one would you suddenly start installing a new front sight or dovetailing the frame for windage? Would you cut the barrel? After all, it is just a shooter right?
I enjoy shooting, but I can't help but think that some guns are simply in a different class than the run of the mill stuff that is out there by the thousands and thousands.
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Post by CraigC on Dec 15, 2011 8:17:16 GMT -5
Well, I'm not gonna go out and pay collector prices for a collectible sixgun and THEN start modifying it. Because I don't like paying collector prices. Because it would be far less expensive to have a common used 3rd generation 7½" rebarrelled. Hell, make it a .357 and rechamber it as well. But if it's something I already have or procured at a modest price, nothing is sacred.
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Post by jeffquinn on Dec 15, 2011 9:53:24 GMT -5
Wow, I just found today that Colt is making brand ne NEw Fronters and they carry the better Elliason rear sights that may even adjust lower than my originals. I wonder if they are an exact size swap out. JEff do you know?? I Called Colt but the guy didnt know the answer. You haven't been reading your daily Gunblast .com!!! Here is the review from August 24th: www.gunblast.com/Colt-NF.htm  Jeff |
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Post by taffin on Dec 15, 2011 10:07:23 GMT -5
Wow, I just found today that Colt is making brand ne NEw Fronters and they carry the better Elliason rear sights that may even adjust lower than my originals. I wonder if they are an exact size swap out. JEff do you know?? I Called Colt but the guy didnt know the answer. You haven't been reading your daily Gunblast .com!!! JEFF THIS ONE DOESN'T COUNT' IT IS LEFT=HANDED!! |
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Post by jeffquinn on Dec 15, 2011 10:12:59 GMT -5
Mr. Taffin, how well are yours shooting? I heard that you have a pair of the new ones. I have another on order for Boge. He keeps wanting to take mine, but it ain't happening. The one that I have is really well-crafted, as are all Colt single actions built within the last few years, that I have handled. My new New Frontier is also very accurate. I am well-pleased!
Jeff
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Post by taffin on Dec 15, 2011 12:00:43 GMT -5
Mr. Taffin, how well are yours shooting? I heard that you have a pair of the new ones. I have another on order for Boge. He keeps wanting to take mine, but it ain't happening. The one that I have is really well-crafted, as are all Colt single actions built within the last few years, that I have handled. My new New Frontier is also very accurate. I am well-pleased! Jeff THEY ARE EXCELLENT IN EVERYWAY! |
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