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Post by justahunter on Sept 8, 2011 23:17:20 GMT -5
I recently fired a Ruger Alaskan in 454 Casull. I was surprised out how controllable it was. I have read that the 454 is very hard to control and has a nasty recoil, but of the two I have shot (Taurus and the Alaskan) I would rather shoot them then my 4" 29.
So, I was wondering what your experiances with various 454 recoil was like?
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Post by dougader on Sept 9, 2011 0:35:56 GMT -5
I have owned and fired a 4" 629. I have also owned and fired 3 different 454's. 2 SRH's with a 7.5" barrel and a 454 Alaskan.
The worst, IMO, are the 7.5" SRH's, then the Alaskan, and least recoil was my 629.
What loads were you firing? I've fired Hornady 240's and Winchester 300's and my handloads with 335 grian WLNGC bullets.
I do think the Hogue grip on the Alaskan does wonders to tame the recoil. But I honestly feel that the 454 kicks a bit more than a 4" 29/629. They say felt recoil is subjective...
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Post by Lee Martin on Sept 9, 2011 7:52:25 GMT -5
This is the only 454 that ever really made recoil an issue for me....  The XR3-RED gripframe just isn't designed for 60,000 PSI loads. I'd change it, but the gun packs well and usually only sees 5-shot 45 Colt levels (~40,000 PSI). -Lee www.singleactions.com |
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Post by whitworth on Sept 9, 2011 8:29:29 GMT -5
And this is the worst one for me.......  This little gun is just evil with .454 loads. I too stick with heavy .45 Colt loads, mainly. I had a 7.5-inch SRH in .454 and it too was unpleasant. |
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Post by AxeHandle on Sept 9, 2011 9:51:33 GMT -5
Is that a SRH 454 cylinder installed in a RH? Hurts me just to think about it.  |
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Post by whitworth on Sept 9, 2011 10:07:35 GMT -5
Is that a SRH 454 cylinder installed in a RH? Hurts me just to think about it. Yes indeed it is. If it had better grips it wouldn't be so bad. Don't like the Pachmyrs that are on it now. |
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Post by dougader on Sept 9, 2011 10:31:51 GMT -5
What bullets are those, Whit? They look like 45 caliber sledgehammers!
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Post by whitworth on Sept 9, 2011 10:34:07 GMT -5
400 grain WFNs..... I prefer the 360s, personally.
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Post by justahunter on Sept 9, 2011 14:47:47 GMT -5
I don't know what the loads were as I was just shooting a few rounds with a friends Alaskan. I know the loads fired in the Taurus were factory, but can't for sure about the Alaskan. I can't tell the weight of the bullet either. For some reason I didn't ask.
The Nastiest load for me in my 29 were max loaded 180s. (Using Horandy Data.) They really snapped back.
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Post by tek4260 on Sept 9, 2011 16:30:17 GMT -5
And this is the worst one for me....... This little gun is just evil with .454 loads. I too stick with heavy .45 Colt loads, mainly. I had a 7.5-inch SRH in .454 and it too was unpleasant. Those look like they would be some of the boolits that have a nose profile to match the forcing cone that 44man was talking about. |
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Post by tek4260 on Sept 9, 2011 16:31:03 GMT -5
I don't know what the loads were as I was just shooting a few rounds with a friends Alaskan. I know the loads fired in the Taurus were factory, but can't for sure about the Alaskan. I can't tell the weight of the bullet either. For some reason I didn't ask. The Nastiest load for me in my 29 were max loaded 180s. (Using Horandy Data.) They really snapped back. 454 factory loads are quite mild compared to what they should be |
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Post by justahunter on Sept 9, 2011 23:13:19 GMT -5
What is the difference between what the factories do and what is safe in a 6 shot revolver?
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Post by jayhawker on Sept 10, 2011 0:00:00 GMT -5
I have one in .454/45 Colt. My idea of an updated Fitz Special!! It's a ball with Win. .45 Colt cowboy loads.
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Post by whitworth on Sept 11, 2011 11:52:51 GMT -5
What is the difference between what the factories do and what is safe in a 6 shot revolver? The current brace of factory fodder may seem milder because the manufacturers seem to be focussing on loads with lighter bullets. Even Winchester dropped their wonderful 300 grain load -- unfortunately. Go to the more specialized manufacturers like Grizzly, Buffalo Bore, and Double Tap and you can get some truly nasty loads. That said, with heavier bullets, it's not a good idea to drive them really hard as they are notorious crimp pullers. Compressed loads, and big recoil are a recipe for failure. BB loads their 360 to a modest 1,400 fps for reliability. There is nothing weak about the SRH 6-shot cylinder. It is made from Carpenter steel and it will take an obscene amount of pressure. Ruger put it through a very rigorous testing regimen before they released it to the public. |
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Post by dmize on Sept 11, 2011 23:17:50 GMT -5
Funny story.
I have always had a thing for getting the crap kicked out of me. When I bought my .454 7 1/2 SRH I bought 2 boxes of shells. Winchester 300 grain and 250 grain. I rattled off a couple of cylinders of 300's and thinking that a 300 would kick harder than 250's and let my brother shoot it with the "assumed to be" lighter 250's. He squeezed 2 off and gave the gun back to me with some unkind remarks and dirty looks. Later I found out that the 250grn load was a FACTORY Casull load that Winchester was loading under contract.
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