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Post by nobearsyet on Jun 29, 2009 10:58:00 GMT -5
Try Skeeter's unique load
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Post by papa on Jun 29, 2009 13:19:00 GMT -5
Okay, thanks Lee Sorry Nobearsyet, I wasn't paying attention. thanks for your help, Papa
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Post by the priest on Jun 29, 2009 21:58:10 GMT -5
I think there have been a number of good guns made that people haven't really realized their potential, the Charter revolvers not withstanding as there a lot of people around here that call them cheap junk, but some good examples are the Seville and El Dorado (for those that haven't read LEE's articles), the Taurus 85 (better gun than a lot of people give them credit for), the Llama 1911 clones, etc. but I guess it just comes down to what you're willing to do with them, and what they were designed to do. I'm pretty sure I'm not, and most on this site are not, going to call a Seville or El Dorado cheap junk. As for the rest,.....I'm going to have to give you the rolling eyes smiley. Now back to your regularly scheduled Charter Arms thread,....
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Post by nobearsyet on Jun 30, 2009 11:24:14 GMT -5
I didn't mean just the folks on this site, as most of us hold the Seville and El Dorado in high regard, however in some parts of the country the Seville and El Dorado ge tno more notice and no more value than a cheap Colt clone
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Post by skipper49 on Jul 28, 2009 11:28:57 GMT -5
I really want to like the .44 Charter. What a great concept. Went to my local fun store where they had a new one in stock. I asked to handle it and you can imagine the surprise when I cocked it and the hammer "stuck" in the full cock position. Not a good first impression at all. I had fired one several years ago, and liked it OK, but a couple of friends and I were shocked to discover that crazy little gun would actually chamber a .44 mag. Is that scary or what? As I said though, what a great concept. I wish Ruger or Smith would make one THAT SIZE in a really quality piece. I'll bet many here would jump on that. Regards, Skip
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Post by nobearsyet on Jul 28, 2009 11:52:44 GMT -5
Skip, first off, welcome to the forum, and second, what you experienced from that new Charter you got ot fondle isn't indicative of what to expect from them, I work in a gunshop part time and I can assure you we sell a bunch of those guns (mostly because I push them really hard as I firmly beleive they are a high quality firearm and mine has never let me down, or shot loose) and that hammer sticking was a fluke, the only I ever suggest doing to one of the Charter arms guns is a set of Pachmyer grips and maybe alter the sights to your liking, and as I have said on this thread, mine takes anything I want to feed it without incident, but I guess the Keith load is a little hot for them so you be the judge, also, there very will may be a run of SP101 revolvers from Ruger so chambered as some of the guys that bought Blackhawks from Lipsey's requested it and Ruger is seriously considering a run for them to keep their customers happy, they're just worried about strength right now, and it will have to be a 5 shooter, posibly with a change in cylinder steels, at least that's what Lipsey's told us when we inquired about buying from the mafter numerous people (myself included) asked about the 44 special blackhawks at the shop
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Post by twbryan on Jul 28, 2009 11:56:57 GMT -5
I had one of the bulldogs,my experience was no positive.
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Post by robl on Jul 28, 2009 13:37:10 GMT -5
Charter Arms guns are as I said earlier in this thread problematical: some good, some not so good. None of the dozen or so hold up to extended shooting, in my experience. The main thing to look for is the cylinder release screw tightening under recoil this makes it hard to open the cylkinder, I have had this on several of the Charter .38s and my newer blued Pug .44. My old 3" Bulldog has a frame pin that is loose and I have to watch it while shooting. (i need to peen it a bit)The good part about them is they do pack easy, and can be remarkably accurate and they are intended for hours of plinking, but rather carry a lot shoot a little. Tuarus came close to it with the too heavy all steal 431 4" .44 special. If they would make an alloy version it will probably sell well. S&W Nightguard on the L frame, even at 2-3 times the price is a step in the right direction. I doubt the Sp101 is big enough for a 5 shot .44 specials Skokangun's 5x44specilas built on the Larger Ruger Security 6 BARELY fit 5 44 specials. Rob
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Post by twbryan on Jul 28, 2009 15:27:13 GMT -5
Pretty much everything you said robl. I spent more time fixing the bulldog than shooting it,and it was hell to get parts from charco. Taurus did produce a short barreled .44 spl. Saw one at a gun show once,I regretted not getting it.
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Post by skipper49 on Jul 28, 2009 17:10:55 GMT -5
Thanks for the welcome nobearsyet. I sure like it around here. Glad to hear your experienced opinion of the Charter .44. The reason I went to look at one in the first place was the excellent article that John Taffin wrote on them some time ago. I trust him 100%, so figured I had just picked up a lemon. Might have to give it another try. Again, thanks for this great site. It's a good place to get away from the "black rifles & combat tupperware" for a while and just enjoy again.
Skip
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Post by Frank V on Jul 28, 2009 21:39:10 GMT -5
I'd like to welcome you too Skip. Frank
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Post by nobearsyet on Jul 29, 2009 0:49:22 GMT -5
Skip, you won't be disappointed with a new Bulldog, I have personally sold at least 4 dozen of them and the only complaints I've ever got were personal stuff (grips, sights, trigger pull, wanting the hammer bobbed, etc.) other than recoil, seems some less enlightened folks think it's rather stout
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Post by skipper49 on Jul 29, 2009 8:23:40 GMT -5
Thanks to you Frank.
nobearsyet....4 dozen ! You guys are selling the heck out of those things. These forums keep me SO broke !
Skip
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Post by Lee Martin on Jul 29, 2009 8:49:44 GMT -5
I've got to echo what Rob said. They're good little carry guns, but aren't as well built as a Smith, Ruger, or Colt. They can shoot loose and in fact I know of many that have. Definitely not 'volume' revolvers, but decent little pocket cannons. I've owned this one since 1984 and it's probably seen no more than 800 - 1,000 rounds of light 44 Special: It's still tight, but that's likely due to reduced loads. -Lee www.singleactions.com
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Post by twbryan on Jul 31, 2009 14:02:56 GMT -5
Just don't drop it.
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