aciera
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Post by aciera on Jan 20, 2024 23:19:56 GMT -5
Blued single six with SS Bisley grip frame
The first SS grip frame I BELIEVE………..
Davidson exclusive I think.
When John Linebaugh started casting SS hammer, triggers and grip frames for all SS conversions
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Post by Jamey Worrell on Jan 21, 2024 0:29:36 GMT -5
Blackbird single six 22 convertible: stainless single six "vaquero" with 3 1/2" barrel and birdshead grips...as I understand it, only about 1200 made.
One's sitting in the safe...bought right after my son was born.
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Post by sixshot on Jan 21, 2024 3:27:52 GMT -5
Shootist "mistake" guns bring a pretty good price from what I'm told.
Dick
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Post by bigbore5 on Jan 21, 2024 6:45:05 GMT -5
1971 Super Single Six 4-5/8". Rare enough Ruger didn't even have a box printed for it. There's plenty more examples of guns that didn't have specific boxes and got the printed stickers.
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Post by bradshaw on Jan 21, 2024 8:11:34 GMT -5
I recently found a 1989 Super Blackhawk with a 10½" barrel-- not sure how many of those have been built. ***** Ruger introduced the S410N Super Blackhawk with 10-1/2” barrel in 1979, specifically aimed at competition in the International Handgun Metallic Silhouette Association (IHMSA, pronounced by shooters as “im-sah.”) The S410N took off and pulled the Ruger horse ahead of the M-29 8-3/8” in the finely tuned race between Sturm, Ruger and Smith & Wesson. Like the standard SBH 7-1/2”, the 10-1/2” Silhouette Super barrel was tapered, broached 6-groove, 1:20” twist, with short 11-degree included angle forcing cone. It wore the standard silver soldered ramp sight and standard ejector. Ruger sent me two of the earliest S410N’s, one of which Ed Verge, my late shooting partner, drilled & tapped for a Leupold Dual Dovetail scope base. Drilling & tapping, or any gunsmithing other than a trigger job with factory parts was strictly verboten under IHMSA Production rules. The stock "Silhouette Super” got campaigned hard, and went on to win the first International Revolver Championship (Sierra 240 JHC, 21 grains/Hercules 2400, Winchester .44 Mag brass, CCI 350 mag primer.) The D&T’d Silhouette Super returned to Southport, Connecticut, where at this shooter’s request, Bill Ruger, Jr., had it fit with an untapered Bull (Ruger’s terminology) barrel, long ejector assembly (including longer spring), and D&T’s for Ruger target sight. This S410N became the prototype for the KS411N “Silver Hornpipe”----introducing the Super Blackhawk to stainless steel, 1983, right on the heels of the Blackhawk .357 Maximum (1982). The Silver Hornpipe featured a broached 10-1/2” Bull barrel with stainless version of the Maximum ejector, screw attached target blade, and the standard short 11-degree forcing cone. It set the Revolver Aggregate Record in its first match. The Hawkeye .357 Maximum was a .256 Hawkeye rebarreled by Bill Ruger, Jr., to .357 Maximum with 10-1/2” bull barrel and target sight. While shooting it at the Ruger compound in Croydon, New Hampshire, I asked Bill, Jr., how many of these .357 Maximum transfer bar Hawkeyes were in existence. “This is the only one,” said Bill. Ruger had a cage full of odd caliber rifles, which various writers and magazine readers had clamored for, only to meet a collective yawn from the buying public. Shooting Times was especially guilty in this respect, as for several years it solicited opinions on what the company should produce. A couple of “only one’s” shot by this shooter include a No. 1 falling block in .357 Maximum, and a Red Label over/under 20 gauge with paper-thin barrels. Some oddballs might include very limited runs for overseas sales, such as a Redhawk .44 Mag with 20” barrel, to be sold in England. Coogs and Tyrone should have much better dope on rarities. David Bradshaw
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Post by bigbore5 on Jan 21, 2024 8:18:33 GMT -5
A 20" Redhawk? My mind automatically goes to what the draw from a hip holster would look like!🤣🤣🤣
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coogs
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Post by coogs on Jan 21, 2024 9:35:15 GMT -5
When it comes to the Maximum....1.490 prototypes......some where around 6 to 8 produced. SRM 1.605 prototypes ......7 produced.....Stainless Maxi's....probably 6 Produced.....3 "scrapped", Maximum Hawkeye... 2 produced. Maximum Number 1.....to the best of my knowledge 2 produced....one has just recently surfaced. Some people consider subscription number guns "rare", depending on the original owner, consequently the more famous (or possibly infamous) the person is/was, the "rarer" the gun. Yeah, I may have a "few" Maxi's laying arond......
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Post by bradshaw on Jan 21, 2024 9:45:57 GMT -5
When it comes to the Maximum....1.490 prototypes......some where around 6 to 8 produced. SRM 1.605 prototypes ......7 produced.....Stainless Maxi's....probably 6 Produced.....3 "scrapped" Maximum Hawkeye... 2 produced. Maximum Number 1.....to the best of my knowledge 2 produced....one has just recently surfaced. Some people consider subscription number guns "rare", depending on the original owner, consequently the more famous (or possibly infamous) the person is/was, the "rarer" the gun. Yeah, I may have a "few" Maxi's laying arond...... ***** Jack.... did the scrapped Hawkeye .357 Maximums have a transfer bar? David Bradshaw
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coogs
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Post by coogs on Jan 21, 2024 10:13:13 GMT -5
added the comma......only two Hawkeyes that I am aware of......one made up of left over Hawkeye parts and rebarreled to Max....the other was a Hawkeye taken out of the factory collection. I thought you told me that Bill Jr. insisted upon it, at least one of them, having a transfer bar? One of them was stolen off the window sill of Tom Rugers office.
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Post by AxeHandle on Jan 21, 2024 10:27:37 GMT -5
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Post by contender on Jan 21, 2024 11:06:22 GMT -5
coogs is the man when it comes to the knowledge of the .357 Maxi & it's history and rarity. Bob Campbell (may he RIP) was the man when it came to the OM .357's and had the most complete collection of all the variations known. Many very, very rare. Heck, only about 800 "Ross" variations of the early FT .357's are out there.
But re-reading the OP's question,, about finding a rare one that a guy might luck into,, still leave a lot of rare guns out there that may be lucked into. The engraved single-sixes,, while in very low production numbers,, there are still quite a few of them that we collectors have zero knowledge of where they reside. (almost 1/2 of them.)
Or sleepers,, like the Single-Six .17HMR/.17 Mach 2 convertible hunter model. Less than 250 made. Very desirable & collectable. (And I lucked into mine several years ago.) Uncatalogued models,, such as the .44 mag Vaquero's, with the gold engraved cylinders,, with a 4-5/8" barrel. A distributor exclusive,, due to a mistake at the factory. That barrel length wasn't ever officially offered. There were both blued ones & stainless ones. less than 250 of them too.
Or a rarer one,, a Mini-14 rifle, made for the foreign market, chambered in .222 Rem. The few over-runs were sold here.
Another potential sleeper is the .40 S&W Vaquero over-run from a special San Diego Sheriff Dept special. Fewer than 200 there without the SD badge emblem.
But back to the OP's request.
Due to the fact that so many rarer guns exist,, and often it's a minor difference a collector may seek, many get over looked.
So in the quest of knowledge,, being a member of the RENE,, (Red Eagle News Exchange) gets you a heck of a reference guide to help in seeking of knowledge on these rare guns. Chad Hiddleson publishes the quarterly newsletter, and has a "Reference Guide" of stuff that's invaluable in the quest for older stuff. Sadly,, due to the HUGE number of guns & such in recent years,, he hasn't updated the Guide since 2010. Remember,, Ruger built over 3 million guns in just 2 years,, and a lot of variations now exist. I keep hoping Chad will consider an update with just the info On a narrower selection of guns most often pursued by collectors. (SA's, DA's, MK pistols, mostly.) Ever since Ruger went to lean manufacturing and serious mass production, keeping up with stuff is very, very hard. But the RENE and joining a group like ROCS is the two places to really get into the knowledge of collecting.
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pleadthe2nd
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Post by pleadthe2nd on Jan 21, 2024 11:09:06 GMT -5
I don't know about rare, but definitely not many of them made, I have a Ruger Turnbull bisley 5.5 barrel super blackhawk (unfired) 45 colt, on the way, wasn't easy to find, but if you dig deep enough treasures will surface
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Post by hypervisor on Jan 21, 2024 17:26:28 GMT -5
6 1/2 inch Super Blackhawk Factory fitted Brass Grip Frame on old model Super Blackhawk
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Post by contender on Jan 21, 2024 19:56:33 GMT -5
The factory fitted brass grip framed guns are desirable and some downright rare. The most common one like that is the Old Army. But try finding an OM .45 Colt. They ain't cheap, and are rare. The .41 mag OM's with factory brass are even rarer!
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Post by matt56 on Jan 27, 2024 14:53:40 GMT -5
I have a 1 of 500 ihmsa Blackhawk 10.5. It came in a nice hard case but it’s not really collectible considering the current state of silhouette shooting.
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