rWt
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Post by rWt on Sept 12, 2023 12:03:06 GMT -5
Any suggestions for a production-grade 1911-single stack is fine?
Tisa has a Stingray Carry that's a stylistic copy of the Ed Brown Cobra Carry with an aluminum frame. Some of you think that Tisa's are ok.
There seems to be only a 4 ounce weight difference between aluminum and steel frame Commander variants. Does that seem about right? That doesn't seem like much for a carry firearm.
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Post by gnappi on Sept 12, 2023 12:43:58 GMT -5
Yeah, 4 ounces is about right. I settled on all steel Commanders exactly because of that.
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Post by JM on Sept 12, 2023 13:43:41 GMT -5
See if you can locate a Dan Wesson version.
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Post by taffin on Sept 12, 2023 14:54:59 GMT -5
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Post by rWt on Sept 12, 2023 17:58:51 GMT -5
Nice, John-very nice!!
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markwell
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Post by markwell on Sept 14, 2023 10:36:44 GMT -5
I have a Colt LW Commander in 9mm built by Kurt Wickman (formerly of Novak's) as well as a few Dan Wesson CCOs which are Commander 4.25" slide assemblies on the Officers frame. IMHO, the DWs are as good or better than the current Colts. Fit, finish and detailing is very good on the DWs while the current Colt's (we have a Colt Wiley Clapp CCO) could use some work; like carry beveling, ramped barrels and certainly better triggers.
I think the aluminum framed Commanders/CCOs are much easier on the hip than a steel framed gun.
Try a CCO before you buy, if you're interested, as the Officers frame doesn't fit everyone's hand.
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markwell
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Post by markwell on Sept 14, 2023 10:37:01 GMT -5
I have a Colt LW Commander in 9mm built by Kurt Wickman (formerly of Novak's) as well as a few Dan Wesson CCOs which are Commander 4.25" slide assemblies on the Officers frame. IMHO, the DWs are as good or better than the current Colts. Fit, finish and detailing is very good on the DWs while the current Colt's (we have a Colt Wiley Clapp CCO) could use some work; like carry beveling, ramped barrels and certainly better triggers.
I think the aluminum framed Commanders/CCOs are much easier on the hip than a steel framed gun.
Try a CCO before you buy, if you're interested, as the Officers frame doesn't fit everyone's hand.
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Post by AxeHandle on Sept 14, 2023 11:00:05 GMT -5
Just walked off the range with my box stock 9mm Springfield RO Champion. Shooting cold. While standing I put 20 shots into a group inside a 4 inch square at 45 feet. I'd prefer some front strap treatment and better ignition parts but price considered it isn't bad. A set of Pachmayr grips and a hammer/sear/disconnector from Cylinder and Slide and we might be somebody. Looked a a current production 9mm Springfield RONIN just this morning. Slide to frame and barrel fit decent. May add one to my set soon.
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Post by bradshaw on Sept 14, 2023 11:38:33 GMT -5
***** I was asked to demonstrate handgun capability at a concealed carry class in Lafayette, Louisiana. I noticed a student with an early Colt Commander 9mm Luge, so I asked to try it. Someone had left a soda can on the 50 yard berm. From Isosceles, the 115 grain .355 sent the can skyward. Probably half the students had no idea a handgun could do such a thing. My first year Colt Commander .45 ACP doesn’t possess accuracy to match that primal Colt 9mm Luger. David Bradshaw |
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Post by marcruger on Sept 14, 2023 12:08:49 GMT -5
David, I am not sure many have the shooting skills to discern that the earlier 9mm you shot outshoots your current 45 one. It says a lot (perhaps more) about the fine shooter versus the 1911. Best wishes, Marc
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Post by bradshaw on Sept 14, 2023 13:13:54 GMT -5
David, I am not sure many have the shooting skills to discern that the earlier 9mm you shot outshoots your current 45 one. It says a lot (perhaps more) about the fine shooter versus the 1911. Best wishes, Marc ***** Correction, the Colt Commander .45 ACP mentioned has serial number in the hundreds, probably made in 1952. There was no “Light Weight Commander”; Colt’s Model 1911 with 4-1/4” barrel had an aluminum frame. There was no steel frame Commander until much later. The military was looking for a pistol lighter than the 39 ounce Model 1911. Contemplating also, as the smoke rose from WW II, less recoil and commonality of ammunition within the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (1949). The Korean blowup in 1950 shelved any idea of changing rifle and pistol cartridges midstream. David Bradshaw |
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Post by ezekiel38 on Sept 14, 2023 19:02:12 GMT -5
The Combat Commander/All steel Commander came along in the 1970s IIRC.
9mm Commander is the place to be today if you're not a reloader.
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Post by dobegrant on Sept 14, 2023 20:08:22 GMT -5
I have a Springfield Armory Lightweight Champion 9mm Range Officer, very nice, accurate and reliable.
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Post by rjm52 on Sept 15, 2023 20:48:14 GMT -5
1970 was the year that the steel frame Combat Commander was introduced in 9mm, .38 Super and .45...
The Commander in .38 Super is my favorite gun...of all guns. Have been carrying one daily since 1980. Most of my Supers have extra 9mm barrels.
Have both the Tisas Stingray and Dan Wesson Guardian..both BobTails. The Stingray just got a .38 Super barrel installed and shoots JUST as well as the DW or Colts....for 1/3 the price.
The DW stated out as a .38 Super and had a 9mm barrel added. In addition found a complete DW Guardian parts kit in .45 ACP that dropped onto the Super frame with no modifications...
Bob
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Post by jd on Sept 16, 2023 23:12:23 GMT -5
Ruger makes an outstanding lightweight Commander size pistol for a reasonable price. Good sights, good trigger, and Ruger's first rate warranty and service...
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