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Post by bigbore5 on Aug 29, 2023 13:14:34 GMT -5
You can't do it by hand. I bought the reamers and did it myself, but I have been a machinist for 30 years. Contact 2dogs. He should be able to help you out.
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Post by magpouch on Aug 29, 2023 13:32:21 GMT -5
Thanks for that, bigbore.
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Post by pattontime on Aug 29, 2023 20:09:35 GMT -5
I may buy myself a reamer from Manson or rent one from 4Drentals, but it is not something I have decided on yet as I do not have any brass yet. My first backorder of 360 DW brass was December 23, 2021, I just looked it up.
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Post by enfield on Sept 3, 2023 9:15:13 GMT -5
I've always considered these guns to be the epitome of "safety margin", lol. I just wonder how long a forcing cone lasts when loaded to 353 or 360 levels?
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Post by bigbore5 on Sept 3, 2023 11:22:09 GMT -5
I've always considered these guns to be the epitome of "safety margin", lol. I just wonder how long a forcing cone lasts when loaded to 353 or 360 levels? 5300rds of Taffin's #9 353 loads with no visible erosion yet, so a long time I'd say
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Post by enfield on Sept 3, 2023 11:40:14 GMT -5
I've always considered these guns to be the epitome of "safety margin", lol. I just wonder how long a forcing cone lasts when loaded to 353 or 360 levels? 5300rds of Taffin's #9 353 loads with no visible erosion yet, so a long time I'd say That's pretty good!
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Post by pattontime on Nov 4, 2023 10:09:07 GMT -5
I am up to 3000 pieces of back-ordered 360 Dan Wesson brass at Starline, I sure hope they make it in the next year, I have heard they are catching up. I figured if they make it, it may be gone before too long & I can't ever see myself needing more than 3000 at my age, not when I have plenty of 357 Maximum brass on hand too, for my Dan Wesson's & my Ruger & Encore.
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Post by bradshaw on Nov 4, 2023 16:20:08 GMT -5
A PROPER 357 MAG CYLINDER FOR SURE. FOR REASONS UNKNOWN TO ME, BUT LIKELY RELATED TO TOLERANCES AND PERHAPS METALLURGY, I AM TOLD THAT YOU CAN ALMOST LOAD THE 357 REDHAWK TO FREEDOM ARMS MODEL 353 LEVELS BUT NOT TO THE 353 LEVEL. ***** Whomever makes these claims should verify them in specific detail for us mere mortals. The Redhawk cylinder is a little fatter than the Blackhawk Maximum cylinder, with double action STOP NOTCHES typically farther to the rear than on a single action. Also, Redhawk notches are offset. Intentionally avoiding the food fight of a metallurgy discission, mass favors Redhawk strength. I’ve never tried to wreck a Redhawk, or Blackhawk/Super Blackhawk, but have spent some time with Rocks & Dynamite in the Blackhawk .357 Maximum. The .357 Maximum took it in stride. I’d like to hear the exact loads specified, along with an after-action description of the brass for these stratospheric loads. As an example, P.O. Ackley specifically noted details of loading WARMto HOT to FAILURE. Exact load data is more important----and useful----than quotes of chamber pressure, which very few are equipped to measure. Not only that, measuring tools go nuts as chamber pressure reaches 90,000 PSI (pounds per square inch). Which means a 60,000 psi load proofed at 50% produces 90,000 psi----the berzerk threshold. A SAAMI cartridge designating 65,000 psi, proofed at 50% yields 97,500 psi. Dropping the proof load to +40% yields a Blue Pill of 91,000 psi, still in the mathematics psycho zone. Us poor mortal handloaders are left to trust folks with lab equipment, from there to have an experience-generated purpose in mind before venturing outside established perimeters. Anything we hold more powerful than our hand carries hazard. We drive a missile to the store, a practice balanced on experience and trust. Carelessness, arrogance, and anger turn the two ton ride into a weapon. Controlled Blasting is a realm quite removed from automobiles and cars. When you blast rock next to a building or water main, blasting becomes a form of surgery. The object is to claim the target, not its surroundings. The surgeon, the sharpshooter, the controlled blaster all have a target. The target inspires action. This is why the term “plinking” never made it into my vocabulary. Sounds like riding a bicycle with a bent wheel. We get hung up on INTERIOR BALLISTICS, specifically chamber pressure and ridiculous permutations of how much is safe in which model gun. It sails over my head. The ride I seek delivers me to the target. Anything for which the .357 Magnum is capable the Freedom Arms Model 353 and Ruger Redhawk swallow in their sleep. David Bradshaw
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Post by 45MAN on Nov 4, 2023 17:06:35 GMT -5
DAVID: I DO NOT HAVE ANY DETAILS ON LOADS JUST HAVE "HEARD". LIKE YOU, I DO NOT UNDRSTAND WHY THE BEEFIER REDHAWK SUPPOSEDLY CANNOT BE LOADED UP TO 353 LEVELS. I HAVE NO NEED TO FIRE MY 353 LOADS IN MY 5.5" SS 357 REDHAWK SO I WILL LEAVE IT UP TO SOMEONE ELSE TO DO THE TEST.
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Post by bigbore5 on Nov 4, 2023 23:02:46 GMT -5
I used Taffin's 353 data in my experimenting days. It's readily available. It got tiresome wrecking brass quickly in the tight chambers of the Freedom Arms.
Upon firing the same level loads in the Redhawk, its looser chambers were the only problem. It took the 50,000+ psi loads fine. Brass on the other hand was a one shot deal. Cases were wrecked. Splits were not uncommon. This was Winchester and Federal brass. Every cylinder required driving the brass out. I backed it off after a few cylinders.
I had not polished the chambers in the Redhawk, nor had I even checked the throats as that gun was purchase specifically for a donor to build a Bains and Davis. That may have helped the extraction some, and better Starline brass may have survived a couple of firings over my once fired factory brass.
Now that I have a few maximums, I don't push the 357mag very hard and am better served by book or close to book loads.
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Post by pete on Nov 6, 2023 19:32:58 GMT -5
they are rare enough to where I never recommend reaming them.
There's really no need to ream, with the custom bullet mould makers available, they can put a crimp groove anywhere you specify. And with that BEEFY cylinder and a caseful of the appropriate powder, it's a done deal
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Post by contender on Nov 6, 2023 22:46:31 GMT -5
Yep,,, rare enough to not wish them modified. And they SHOOT too!
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Post by bigbore5 on Nov 7, 2023 3:54:03 GMT -5
Or you can find a spare barrel, get a bullet mold that seats a little farther out, and load max charges of little gun or 300MP.
It's going to erode the forcing cone, but it'll be a mean 357 without the trouble of finding brass
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Post by contender on Nov 7, 2023 9:42:51 GMT -5
Spare barrels for the .357 Redhawks are scarcer than the guns! I've never seen any for sale,, but I have seen a few of the 6-shot guns. Now,, if the "new" 8 shot" Redhawk barrels will fit,, then maybe that's an option. I wouldn't take apart my .357 Redhawks to try it though. I already have a .357 Maxi shooter I use! Just in a Super Blackhawk.
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Post by reflex264 on Nov 7, 2023 9:46:53 GMT -5
I just saw this. I have kicked myself many times for passing on one of those at Larry's in Huntsville years ago. It was heavy but really cool. It was also a third of what they are bringing now.
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