Fowler
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Post by Fowler on Nov 22, 2021 16:08:25 GMT -5
I picked up a Winchester 1895 in 30/06 a year ago and really like it, except for the sights.
Last fall I started to wear eyeglasses for the first time and am really struggling with standard buckhorn style sights and would like to swap to peep sights.
I know the classic for the rifle is the Lyman #21 but they have become unobtainable or ungodly expensive when available (like as much as I paid for the rifle expensive).
I could have the top of action milled with 2 holes to accept a XO or Skinner sight, its a reproduction gun so modifying the gun doesn't both me all that much if it is the right answer.
I have zero desire to add a scout style scope to this rifle, it will stay a iron sighted gun. It might become a 35 Whelan down the road but not a scoped gun.
So I wanted to know what others thoughts and experiences are on this issue.
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jd
.30 Stingray
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Post by jd on Nov 22, 2021 16:33:45 GMT -5
You might check out Providence Tool Company, LLC. ( www.peabodyrifle.com/sights.html ). They make a copy of the Lyman 21 for the Winchester 95. It's still not cheap, but is reasonable quality. I had Ben Forkin install one on my Browning 95 in 30-06. He tightened the windage slide a bit and overall it seems like a good sight, and it looks like a traditional sight. The Skinner sight I'm sure works just as well and is both cheaper and easier to use... Skinner makes nice sights and I'm sure it is a little higher quality than the Providence sight... Both sights would be a good choice...
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Post by bullseye on Nov 26, 2021 18:18:50 GMT -5
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rWt
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Post by rWt on Nov 27, 2021 7:17:02 GMT -5
You may need to consider front sight options. An aperture rear is a big help, but I have to also replace skinny front sights.
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Post by 45MAN on Nov 27, 2021 7:32:08 GMT -5
I THINK THERE ARE SIMILAR SET UPS CONSISTING OF A MOUNT FOR A RED DOT SIGHT, e.g. THE BURRIS FFIII, AND, IIRC, MEMBER TRAPR WAS ALSO WORKING ON SUCH A MOUNT. CERTAINLY NOT AS TRADITIONAL AS A LYMAN STYLE PEEP SIGHT BUT NOT AS GOOFY AS A SCOUT MOUNTED SCOPE, AND EASIER ON OLDER EYES THAN PEEP SIGHTS, ESPECIALLY IN LOW LIGHT CONDITIONS.
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Post by lar4570 on Nov 27, 2021 7:50:31 GMT -5
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Post by crash87 on Dec 5, 2021 13:25:52 GMT -5
I bought the same rifle years ago when they first cataloged them in '06 and 270. Mine being a 270 I sent it to the late Richard Nickel to have it rebored to a 35 cal with a 1:12 twist. I envisioned this as a heavy bullet, more than 250gr, 35 Whelen. N.O.E. and Erik Ohlen helped me with those heavy 300gr.bullets. My sight system consisted of a Lyman 66 for the 1886 Winchester, which fit perfectly. I did however, have to have holes drilled and tapped for that installation. I to, did not care for the front sight, so had a dovetail cut and a Williams shorty ramp used with a dovetail lock and a AO front with vertical stripe sight. I found that I couldn't tighten down the screw enough to my liking to keep the front ramp in the dovetail tight enough. I could take my thumb and with alot of pressure move the ramp. NOT good, so I did what I should have from the start, Not liking the 24" barrel on the Whelen and not really thinking its necessary, I had My 'smith cut the barrel to 22" and solder on the base. Crash87
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Fowler
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Post by Fowler on Dec 6, 2021 0:04:56 GMT -5
I bought the same rifle years ago when they first cataloged them in '06 and 270. Mine being a 270 I sent it to the late Richard Nickel to have it rebored to a 35 cal with a 1:12 twist. I envisioned this as a heavy bullet, more than 250gr, 35 Whelen. N.O.E. and Erik Ohlen helped me with those heavy 300gr.bullets. My sight system consisted of a Lyman 66 for the 1886 Winchester, which fit perfectly. I did however, have to have holes drilled and tapped for that installation. I to, did not care for the front sight, so had a dovetail cut and a Williams shorty ramp used with a dovetail lock and a AO front with vertical stripe sight. I found that I couldn't tighten down the screw enough to my liking to keep the front ramp in the dovetail tight enough. I could take my thumb and with alot of pressure move the ramp. NOT good, so I did what I should have from the start, Not liking the 24" barrel on the Whelen and not really thinking its necessary, I had My 'smith cut the barrel to 22" and solder on the base. Crash87 Overall how do you like this rifle? I have the odd interest in the 35 WCF original 1895 rifles and they can be had sort f cheap but it’s because brass and dies are near impossible to obtain. I think a 250gr Nosler Partition would be all I could ever ask for in the gun with iron sights on up to elk sized game. Honestly I don’t know how much of a gain I would really see over a 220gr 30/06 load with irons so who knows where this will go.
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Post by bigbrowndog on Dec 6, 2021 9:45:23 GMT -5
Another nontraditional option would be an NECG barrel band sight for the front position, then your ability to play with Patridge, FO, brass, Ivory, whatever blade is easily done.
I really like the factory bolt peep on my 71, but also the Lyman receiver on the 1886. The front sight in the 71 is a factory brass bead worked fine, or good enough, but now I’m looking for a Patridge type replacement. The front on the 1886 is a small Lyman globe, and it works well for its purposes.
Trapr
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Post by crash87 on Dec 6, 2021 21:21:15 GMT -5
Fowler, I do like the rifle, takes me back to another time:) However, I do have and shoot Marlins 1895, 1894, 336"s and Winchesters, '94's, '92's. As you already probably know, working the lever doesn't come as smoothly or gainly on a '95, more like ungainly, but not horribly so. I only have shot whitetail deer with mine, when I shot jacketed bullets, I used exclusively the Speer 250 gr spitzer, to me however, its more of a semi spitzer, perfect for this rifle in my opinion. So yes, I do agree, a 250 Nosler would be an excellent combo on Elk. I do see some gain over the '06 220gr, that only being the obvious, frontal diameter, and a bit more bullet weight, which can or cant make the difference. All depends on the situation. The 35 Winchester, was and still is, to those who have them, an excellent cartridge, with the Whelen doing everything it could do albeit, with a touch more velocity. I own now several 35 caliber rifles, my latest acquisition being a 358Win. A Savage 110 I had rebarrled. Its nice, shot a deer with it last season, but I'll tell you this, when I grab that '95 to go afield, nothing can wipe the grin off my face. Yes I do like it, a lot. Crash87
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Post by rjm52 on Dec 6, 2021 22:29:00 GMT -5
Have been thinking about this myself because the eyes are not what they once were.
Bought one of the early remakes in .405 Winchester as I have lots of .41 pistol bullets to plink with. The receivers on the early production guns were not D&T for a receiver sight. One of my friends bought one of the case hardened take-down models also in .405 and his was D&T...
On a side note, those steel butt plates hurt to shoot, especially with factory .405 ammo. I had a smith install the thinnest Pachmayer Decellorator pad and it made all the difference is comfort and shootability... No wood had to be removed.
Nice guns from another time...when men were men and died before their eyes went south...
Bob
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tarbe
.240 Incinerator
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Post by tarbe on Dec 7, 2021 11:24:14 GMT -5
I picked up a Winchester 1895 in 30/06 a year ago and really like it, except for the sights. Last fall I started to wear eyeglasses for the first time and am really struggling with standard buckhorn style sights and would like to swap to peep sights. I know the classic for the rifle is the Lyman #21 but they have become unobtainable or ungodly expensive when available (like as much as I paid for the rifle expensive). I could have the top of action milled with 2 holes to accept a XO or Skinner sight, its a reproduction gun so modifying the gun doesn't both me all that much if it is the right answer. I have zero desire to add a scout style scope to this rifle, it will stay a iron sighted gun. It might become a 35 Whelan down the road but not a scoped gun. So I wanted to know what others thoughts and experiences are on this issue. Skinner bolt peep and NECG banded front.
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Post by bigbrowndog on Dec 7, 2021 11:39:19 GMT -5
Good looking rifle, Tarbe
Trapr
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Post by blackhawk44 on Dec 14, 2021 2:44:30 GMT -5
For use with receiver or tang sight on my '06 1895, found the XS white striped ramped blade to be perfect out front. White stripe draws your eye while the square blade helps maintain elevation and windage. Worked great out past 200 yds.
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gcf
.30 Stingray
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Post by gcf on Dec 14, 2021 13:03:47 GMT -5
Good looking rifle, Tarbe Trapr I'll second that! Sight setup looks right at home.
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