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Post by bullseye on Apr 29, 2021 14:04:12 GMT -5
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Post by silcott on Apr 29, 2021 17:28:15 GMT -5
A guy at work was just telling me about that today. That's definitely scary.
Justin
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Post by tullymars on Apr 29, 2021 17:35:00 GMT -5
A lucky man for sure.
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Post by NathanHale on Apr 29, 2021 18:10:29 GMT -5
God, humor and a good woman. Full kit for a great life. (And a lot of luck)
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Post by bigbrowndog on Apr 29, 2021 18:11:48 GMT -5
Let’s fire just one more!!! Let’s do it one more time!!! I can’t tell you how many accidents, deaths and injuries I’ve made that were the result of “one more time”. That guy is very lucky.
Trapr
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Post by bullseye on Apr 29, 2021 19:27:48 GMT -5
Yes, I'd say he was most definitely a MIGHTY lucky Man.
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Post by contender on Apr 29, 2021 20:56:42 GMT -5
Wow.
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Post by nolongcolt on Apr 29, 2021 21:39:21 GMT -5
Verrrrry lucky indeed!
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Post by gtojim on Apr 29, 2021 22:14:51 GMT -5
His definition of luck has changed.
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Post by rangersedge on Apr 30, 2021 22:21:18 GMT -5
Very lucky; but also a cool customer. I don't know if i would have the presence of mind to plug my jugular with my thumb.
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Post by Ramar on May 1, 2021 7:25:41 GMT -5
Twenty days later and he's able to tell the story so well. Thank you, LORD! Amazing!
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Post by bradshaw on May 1, 2021 13:12:57 GMT -5
***** bullseye.... thanks for posting this cautionary tale. Victim of accident possesses toughness & poise, with the good fortune to have a sharp father on hand. Lucky, also, as an 1/8 or 1/4-inch difference in path of shrapnel could have completely severed aortic vessel. My doubts about the enterprise focus first on rifle, second on ammunition. RifleThe rifle appears to be a machine shop variation on a slide-hammer gun made during the Mau Mau rising against British colonization in Kenya. A .303 British cartridge was dropped into a length of iron pipe, the rim seating against the approximate 1/2-inch hole. A second pipe loosely sleeves over it. The outer pipe, or sleeve, has a pipe cap screwed to the back end. A nail or firing pin is welded inside the cap. Slamming the sleeve forward fires the weapon. Such improvised weapons were used in “bullet barter” to take a real rifle. Seems the .50 BMG rifle which blew up enjoys a similar design concept. To thread a “breech plug” on a firearm for each shot doesn’t disturb me as much for its neanderthal load-cycle as for absence of material mass. Its threaded “lockup” introduces all manner of untenable stress. The threaded cap on the .50 BMG appears to have let go without visible damage to the receiver----except for ripped-off threads. looks like the barrel held. The .50 BMG is a powerhouse cartridge; with real recoil beyond reach of a muzzle brake. AmmoHaving not fired a .50 BMG SLAP (Sabot Light Armor Penetrator) round, I'd want to know more about it----before firing in a non-designated weapon. The transparent sabot raises suspicion of inferior plastic. For penetrating steel, VELOCITY is the name of the game. A .22-250 with varmint bullet penetrates more steel than a lumbering .45-70, doing so by velocity alone. (A meatball bullet penetrates meat better.) The raison d’être of a SLAP round is to penetrate steel. Thus, velocity, lots of it. Velocity requires pressure, lots of it. This story has much too happy an ending to shoot for a repeat. Some guns I have no interest in firing. Wouldn’t be surprised to hear a bit of self-sacrifice attended firing a Mau Mau Pipe Bomb .303. As for the same idea in .50 BMG, reckon I’ll pass. David Bradshaw |
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Post by Quick Draw McGraw on May 1, 2021 18:27:33 GMT -5
***** bullseye.... thanks for posting this cautionary tale. Victim of accident possesses toughness & poise, with the good fortune to have a sharp father on hand. Lucky, also, as an 1/8 or 1/4-inch difference in path of shrapnel could have completely severed aortic vessel. My doubts about the enterprise focus first on rifle, second on ammunition. RifleThe rifle appears to be a machine shop variation on a slide-hammer gun made during the Mau Mau rising against British colonization in Kenya. A .303 British cartridge was dropped into a length of iron pipe, the rim seating against the approximate 1/2-inch hole. A second piece of pipe sleeved over it. The outer pipe, or sleeve, had a pipe cap screwed to the back end. The pipe cap a piece of nail welded or outsize fixed inside the cap. Slamming the sleeve forward fired the weapon. Such improvised weapons were used a “bullet barter” to trade for a real rifle. Seems the .50 BMG rifle which blew up enjoyed a similar design concept. To thread a “breech plug” on a firearms for each shot doesn’t disturb me as much for its neanderthal load cycle, as for its absence of material mass. Worse, its threaded “lockup” introduces all manner of untenable stress. The threaded cap appears to have let go without visible damage to the tune receiver----except for ripped-off threads. The .50 BMG is a powerhouse cartridge; its real recoil beyond reach of a muzzle brake. AmmoHaving never fired a .50 BMG SLAP (Sabot Light Armor Penetrator), I would want to know more about it before firing in a non-designated weapon. The transparent sabot raises suspicion of inferior plastic. For penetrating steel, VELOCITY is the name of the game. A .22-250 with varmint bullet penetrates more steel than the big .45-70, doing so by velocity alone. (Meatball penetrate meat much better, doing so with mass & momentum.) The raison d’être of a SLAP round is to penetrate steel; thus, velocity, lots of it. Velocity requires pressure, lots of it. This story has much too happy an ending to shoot for a repeat. Some guns I have no interest in firing. Wouldn’t be surprised to hear a bit of self-sacrifice attended firing a Mau Mau Pipe Bomb .303. As for the same idea in .50 BMG, reckon I’ll pass. David Bradshaw Once again, your willingness to share your knowledge and experience is fascinating and informative. I really appreciate your thoughts on this. I am really happy Scott is okay, and after reading about your assessment of the rifle, I will not be going near any rifle like this. No disrespect to Mark Serbu. |
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Post by bradshaw on May 2, 2021 9:19:54 GMT -5
Dave.... appreciate the kind words. Through poise and determination, the Kaboom victim lives to be with family and to shoot another day. His life hung by a thread, literally. I’ve heard of .50 BMG’s built on ancient anti-tank rifles, which let go.
I doubt this blow-up started with a piece of sabot left in the barrel. The barrel seems the only solid ingredient in the gumbo.
David Bradshaw
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Post by texasdude74 on May 3, 2021 8:57:24 GMT -5
My father in law has some of those SLAP rounds. I showed him this video for his opinion. He states that these rounds were never available to the public as complete rounds, only pulled components. He bought a cache of them several years ago and they came with the projectiles, brass and a jug of powder. Everything but the primers. He had no idea of the powder brand or characteristics or even its history, so it was used either on 4th of July or New Years fireworks.
So his first thought is that the ones in this video were assembled with the powder they came with and over loaded or perhaps there was an issue with the powder itself.
But, based on the increasing muzzle flash seen in the video, and the fact that he was hitting further and further to the right and down; it’s his belief that these were someone’s work up rounds. Loaded progressively hotter until signs of over pressure were apparent then one would have established their max and pulled the remaining rounds apart.
How someone’s development rounds would end up being sold off to someone is a good question. Certainly a case of buyer be ware.
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