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Post by Quick Draw McGraw on Feb 4, 2020 7:52:41 GMT -5
I read John Taffin's article about it recently and was really interested in trying it out. But short of the Freedom Arms Model 83, is there a revolver that can handle it?
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Post by KRal on Feb 4, 2020 8:22:47 GMT -5
I haven't tried it, but I think a 6 shot Redhawk/Super Redhawk would most likely handle the 353 load, but don’t say I said so.
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Post by Encore64 on Feb 4, 2020 8:43:41 GMT -5
Thinking the new BFR 6-Shot 357 Magnum will too.
But, only time will tell. There's a lot of steel around those chambers.
If I were going to Jack Up pressures in a Redhawk, it would be a custom only with tight chambers.
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Post by bradshaw on Feb 4, 2020 8:44:42 GMT -5
I read John Taffin's article about it recently and was really interested in trying it out. But short of the Freedom Arms Model 83, is there a revolver that can handle it? ***** Quick Draw Mcgraw.... looked up “.353 Casull,” could not find diddly. Freedom Arms chambered the Model 83 in .357 Mag and called it the Model 353. Quite a far cry from a “.353 Casull.” If you’re asking which revolver can handle loads equal in pressure to the Freedom Arms M-83/M-353, you may end your search on the doorstep of Freedom Arms. David Bradshaw |
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Post by KRal on Feb 4, 2020 9:18:57 GMT -5
I read John Taffin's article about it recently and was really interested in trying it out. But short of the Freedom Arms Model 83, is there a revolver that can handle it? ***** quickdrawmcgraw.... looked up “.353 Casull,” could not find diddly. Freedom Arms chambered the Model 83 in .357 Mag and called it the Model 353. Quite a far cry from a “.353 Casull.” If you’re asking which revolver can handle loads equal in pressure to the Freedom Arms M-83/M-353, you may end your search on the doorstep of Freedom Arms. David Bradshaw David, my FA 357 mag is actually labeled “353 Casull” on the barrel - it’s one of the early models. |
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Post by Encore64 on Feb 4, 2020 9:39:31 GMT -5
Keep in mind, the "353 Casull" Loads were worked up using the brass as the weakest factor. The tight chambers probably contributed as much to the loads as the gun's great strength.
Checking my BFR and FA 454s, the FA actually accepted a pin gauge .001" larger than the BFR. That doesn't mean it's a full .001" larger, but certainly shows the BFRs are also tight in this chambering.
Provided the New BFR 6-Shot 357 Magnum is chambered tight, again the brass will be the weak link.
I'd measure chambers first then work up slowly with the usual precautions.
This is just my thinking, not proven fact...
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Post by leftysixgun on Feb 4, 2020 10:32:15 GMT -5
Hahaha, excuse my ignorance but what is a 353 Casull?
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Post by Encore64 on Feb 4, 2020 10:34:40 GMT -5
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Post by potatojudge on Feb 4, 2020 10:55:09 GMT -5
Keep in mind, the "353 Casull" Loads were worked up using the brass as the weakest factor. The tight chambers probably contributed as much to the loads as the gun's great strength. Checking my BFR and FA 454s, the FA actually accepted a pin gauge .001" larger than the BFR. That doesn't mean it's a full .001" larger, but certainly shows the BFRs are also tight in this chambering. Provided the New BFR 6-Shot 357 Magnum is chambered tight, again the brass will be the weak link. I'd measure chambers first then work up slowly with the usual precautions. This is just my thinking, not proven fact... Less formal, but in reloading I've noticed the FA chambers aren't on the small size of spec, which I appreciate. It makes them less picky about ammo and easier to load for compared to some tight chambered customs I have. Clearly no degradation of strength or accuracy. In rounds that take large primers, making the same round in a small primer version improves case life. Not an option here unfortunately. |
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Post by leftysixgun on Feb 4, 2020 15:44:36 GMT -5
Thanks Huey, so the 353 Casull is just a super dooper high pressurized 357 mag?
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Post by sixshot on Feb 4, 2020 16:03:18 GMT -5
It still blows my mind that the 353 can achieve the velocity that it does but I know it's true. One time when we were shooting Rock Chucks Bob Baker told me the velocity he was getting with 180 gr bullets out of his personal FA 357 magnum & I think it was faster than my 10.5" 357 maximum! I don't know what the case life is with those kinds of pressures but as mentioned the brass is the weak link with a FA gun. I'm not sure you could blow one up with a case full of Bullseye powder.
And I'm not suggesting anyone try it!!!!
Dick
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Post by Encore64 on Feb 4, 2020 16:56:19 GMT -5
Thanks Huey, so the 353 Casull is just a super dooper high pressurized 357 mag? Yes... |
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Post by jfs on Feb 4, 2020 17:17:01 GMT -5
Had some starting 353 handloads, for my M-83, at the range and just my S&W m-27.. Looking at the small holes in the cylinder I figured the Smith with all the extra steel could take the handloads but I got a miss fire and then remembered using small rifle primers for the 353. Just as good.... 
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Post by squawberryman on Feb 4, 2020 18:55:24 GMT -5
James please tell us that aren't a hundred percent on that situation why small rifle primers are difficult to ignite by the Smith if you would please sir.
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Post by taffin on Feb 4, 2020 19:01:10 GMT -5
I read John Taffin's article about it recently and was really interested in trying it out. But short of the Freedom Arms Model 83, is there a revolver that can handle it? THE HANDLOADS ON MY SHELF ARE MARKED "FREEDOM ARMS M353 ONLY"! |
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