mac86
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Post by mac86 on Oct 19, 2019 20:54:13 GMT -5
Hi guys, Need some input. Had a model 27 converted to 44 spl with a factory barrel I provided and had the .357 cylinder reamed out to .44spl. Looks like lots of chatter marks from the reamer. Should I be ticked? First pic is the revolver in question, while the second is the cylinder from the 3rd model hand ejector.   |
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Post by zeus on Oct 19, 2019 21:10:25 GMT -5
That looks rough! Does the brass stick at all? If not and the guns shoots well I wouldn’t worry much but I wouldn’t send them another one.
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mac86
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Post by mac86 on Oct 19, 2019 21:16:09 GMT -5
Yeah the brass sticks like crazy otherwise I wouldn't bother. Ya just pay alot of money for something and youd think the guy would get it right the first time😑
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Post by zeus on Oct 19, 2019 21:28:09 GMT -5
Nope. Make them make it right. That’s not even close to being right. If they just “hone” it, you could get oversize price. Keep track of how they will make it right I guess is what I’d do.
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Post by z1r on Oct 19, 2019 23:28:50 GMT -5
Those are horrible looking chambers.
Yes, you would think it would be done right.
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mac86
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Post by mac86 on Oct 20, 2019 1:18:58 GMT -5
Just got in contact with the gunsmith he's gonna fix the issue. Appreciate the input folks!
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Post by bula on Oct 20, 2019 8:13:38 GMT -5
Yup, fix or repair or replace. That looks like the cylinder my Alaskan came with. Looked like it was threaded ! Ruger replaced. Polishing it out may call for removing so much stock that other issues pop up.
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mac86
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Post by mac86 on Oct 20, 2019 8:18:32 GMT -5
I'm hoping he can polish it and retain the
.430-.431 cylinder throats. Dont need those getting too out of wack
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Post by Rimfire69 on Oct 20, 2019 8:29:40 GMT -5
Those look deep enough that a polish job will likely give you oversize chambers, I think you need a cylinder.
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mac86
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Post by mac86 on Oct 20, 2019 8:30:20 GMT -5
Well nuts, itll be on the gunsmiths dime though
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Post by mac86 on Oct 20, 2019 8:32:22 GMT -5
I had a factory original 1950 target barrel used in the conversion. What would be considered to excessive for the cylinder throats in .44 spl?
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Post by bradshaw on Oct 20, 2019 8:40:45 GMT -5
Hi guys, Need some input. Had a model 27 converted to 44 spl with a factory barrel I provided and had the .357 cylinder reamed out to .44spl. Looks like lots of chatter marks from the reamer. Should I be ticked? First pic is the revolver in question, while the second is the cylinder from the 3rd model hand ejector. ***** Oh, so sad. Don’t know when, but it sure ain’t recent, Smith & Wesson introduced ROLLER BURNISHING to revolver chambers. Process designed to facilitate simultaneous, dead-smooth extraction. Chambers very carefully reamed sans tool marks before roller burnishing. Everyone took note. Colt and Sturm, Ruger applying the technique to double action cylinders. Just as a hammer forge doesn’t correct lousy bore preparation on barrel stock, roller burnishing can’t wipe out rough chamber reaming. Then burnisher makes smooth smoother. Something may be said for a non-burnished single action chamber as (for a moment) it holds a magnum case against setback. In theory it may over time contribute to retardation of endshake. Against that theory, nothing compensates for a magnum which starts with ZERO or minuscule endshake, or cylinder correctly finished in the first place. One would have to wait a very long time to see whether roller burnished chambers in a Redhawk might possible accelerate endshake! By which time a few elbows and wrists would have been worn to pulp. Don’t know how this cylinder can be saved, unless a maestro can turn it into a .45. Note, a few smiths of my acquaintance won’t touch a butcher job. It’s not worth it. On a much more minor note, I have “saved” fugitive trigger jobs, but only when there is appropriate metal to work with. David Bradshaw |
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Post by mac86 on Oct 20, 2019 8:49:26 GMT -5
Thanks for chiming in Mr. Bradshaw. Guess I'll have to find a 24 cylinder or a spare
.357 cylinder and get it rebored. Any suggestions for a gunsmith that can tackle it?
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Post by bradshaw on Oct 24, 2019 10:38:21 GMT -5
Thanks for chiming in Mr. Bradshaw. Guess I'll have to find a 24 cylinder or a spare .357 cylinder and get it rebored. Any suggestions for a gunsmith that can tackle it? ***** Call a gunsmith with screen credits here on Singleactions. When it came time to rebarrel a revolver of extreme expectations, I called John Taffin and he pointed me to real talent. Compared with most machinery, the revolver is country simple. An orchestra of relationships nevertheless, which come together to play. David Bradshaw |
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Post by squawberryman on Oct 26, 2019 5:47:42 GMT -5
I keep coming back to those pics. Did he use a Tapcon bit?
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