boots
.240 Incinerator
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Post by boots on Aug 27, 2019 18:01:54 GMT -5
I have a FA 7.5" 454 with a 2x scope [it was bought the 2nd year of production]. It has taken almost every big critter here and in Alaska. But for what you indicated I use either a Ruger 44 special or 45 colt. I agree that I have all the guns I need but am looking to get more so enjoy your FA. If I was you I would get the 41.
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Post by kings6 on Aug 27, 2019 18:44:27 GMT -5
I love the 41 in the FA model 83. A 5 1/2” gun with a bisley hammer lives here now but there should be 10” octagon dedicated scoped model 83 in 41 mag showing up soon. Once it arrived I will see if I want to swap the hammers.
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Post by jfs on Aug 27, 2019 19:21:42 GMT -5
Have ‘em put a TRIGGER with STOP SCREW. Unless you specifically don’t want the trigger stop. Consider also buying the Freedom Arms snap caps. Although, the firing pin lasts longer when you dry fire with a chunk of lead, leather, or rubber in the hammer slot of frame. Good hunting, David Bradshaw Two good additions for a Freedom from David... Now that FA`s have a removable firing bushing I carry a spare pin and spring when hunting.. A few years back while hunting at the SCI-YO Ranch hunt I broke the firing pin on a model 83 in 357 and 45Man was kind enough to bail me out with an extra pin he had.. When I got home I sent him a replacement and have known him ever since...
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Post by magman on Aug 28, 2019 5:53:35 GMT -5
Do they have a replaceable pin setup for the 252? I have 2 older 83s that need the replaceable pin
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Post by rjm52 on Aug 28, 2019 8:05:30 GMT -5
Don't think I can add much to the very experienced hunters above but do have three FAs in .41 Magnum. Number one was a 654 (older 83) with a 6" barrel... Absolutely a great long range shooter. The next was a 4.25" 97 with a round butt. Great carry gun or Packin' Pistol... It does however take the most concentration to shoot well. The last is a square butt 97 with the standard 5.5" barrel. It also has been a great shooter. One thing to remember on the 97s is that the cylinder is shorter than most other .41s on the market. This somewhat limits the cast bullets that one can use if one wants to crimp in the standard groove not over the shoulder. Keith bullets have to be crimped over the front driving band and the LWN LBT bullets are just a no go. But in the 97 one doesn't really need anything over 250 grains anyway and the standard 250 LBT WFN with 20 grains of H110 runs 1310 from the little 97...and is a handful... I don't think one would ever recover one from game... If you are new to .41, welcome to the Cult... Here is a post thread from the Cast Boolit Forums that has a lot of good posts and links on the .41...it has it all over a .357 when it comes to hunting big game... castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?276144-41-Magnum-41-Special-Load-Data-CenterMay you do well on your hunts... Bob
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Post by sixshot on Aug 28, 2019 11:16:30 GMT -5
I've owned 2 FA revolvers, a 454 & a 475, the next one will be a model 83 in 41 magnum. Just have to decide on a barrel length, somewhere between 7 & 10".
Dick
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Post by rjm52 on Aug 28, 2019 17:57:50 GMT -5
Dick...have only seen a couple of 7.5" .41s for sale over the years and only one 10"...will keep an eye out for you...
Price on them keeps going up but the price of used guns seems to always be in a range between $1500 and $2100 depending on the features...
There is a brand new 83 in .41 Magnum on GunsInternational.....it has been there for years... 4.75" barrel, round butt, black Micarta grips, jeweled hammer, 3# trigger with stop.... Started at $2680 and every time FA has a price increase it goes up. It went to $2850 and is now over $3K...same gun... Same Seller has a real cute little 97...4.25", round butt, fluted...in .327 Federal...that's now up to $2700...
Bob
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Post by sixshot on Aug 28, 2019 20:36:19 GMT -5
Bob, I hear ya, I've raved about them so much my buddy Callshot bought one with the 7.5" barrel a few years back & that thing shoots amazing! He's moved away since he remarried & it's just been sitting in his safe. He just left my house a few minutes ago but it wouldn't do any good to try & buy it, he never sells. I'll have to make up my mind one of these days. I'll probably want a field grade & I won't want the round butt, other than that I'm just sitting on the barrel length decision.
Dick
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Post by kings6 on Aug 28, 2019 21:21:46 GMT -5
Too bad a 5 1/2" custom ordered barrel wouldn't scratch your itch Dick. Mine has the factory action job, black micartas, Ken O'Neil front sight and the 5 1/2" barrel. A lot less than a new one.
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nick
.240 Incinerator
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Post by nick on Aug 29, 2019 7:48:37 GMT -5
First Stop has in stock a M97 in .41 mag with a 7 1/2” barrel.
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jt
.30 Stingray
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Post by jt on Aug 29, 2019 12:03:47 GMT -5
How regularly are you guys running into trouble with the firing pins?? I had a custom 97 done up for myself about a year ago, and am a little concerned with all the chatter around having to watch them so closely!
Howcome such a difference between a freedom pin & a ruger pin (that seems to stand up to any abuse thrown at it) ?
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dhd
.327 Meteor
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Post by dhd on Aug 29, 2019 12:36:23 GMT -5
The 41 Magnum is one caliber I don't have at all. Since its a "help me choose" type of thread I'll say get a 41 in the 83!
I wish you hadn't asked the question at all as I've now searched out what is available for sale on the net now. From reading the thread since it started, it appears the 83 in 41 tend to be very accurate and enjoyed by all that have them. Cha-ching, $3000 +/- down the tubes (probably).
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Post by bradshaw on Aug 29, 2019 19:09:56 GMT -5
Two items on the Freedom Arms Model 83
1) There is a reason why the Model 83----the Dick Casull .454 single action----rose like a rocket across the firing lines of handgun silhouette: ACCURACY. Accuracy is not a roll of the dice when you buy. At the first World Revolver Championship, a a top International Class sharpshooter told me that he and three other steel shooters bought 19 Ruger Silhouette Supers to end up sharing one for serious torurnament. Now, the hypothetical “average” magnum afficianato may die with a smile on his or her face having never experienced this level of accuracy.
If there is a rule of revolver accuracy, with Freedom Arms you buy once, and arrive.
2) Brittle firing pin. As a fierce advocate of DRY FIRE, it rankles me that the Freedom Arms has an equally fierce propensity for breaking the firing pin. Therefore, interpose a resilient cushion between hammer and firing pin for dry fire. Snap caps are better than nothing, but the snap cap must a good one and strongly sprung. Still, I prefer a hank of cowhide, lead, or rubber in the frame slot for dry firing the Freedom Arms.
Now I must gratuitously add a third element to the construction of a Freedom Arms
3) A Freedom Arms is TIGHT. Dick Casull wandered angelic into the stratosphere of revolver ballistics. Pushing the limits. A superb machinist, close tolerances came natural to Dick Casull. Yet, he also discovered you can’t run a loose rocket. The higher we drive velocity, the tighter we must drive tolerances. The great reliability factor of a revolver begins at the cylinder. Which instantly separates chamber from bore. To hold all that gas behind a bullet, dimensions must be firm. Otherwise the pressure is wasted gas. David Bradshaw
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Post by squawberryman on Aug 29, 2019 19:40:32 GMT -5
That fella from Jersey is plain dangerous
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Post by jfs on Aug 29, 2019 19:44:07 GMT -5
Two items on the Freedom Arms Model 831) There is a reason why the Model 83----the Dick Casull .454 single action----rose like a rocket across the firing lines of handgun silhouette: ACCURACY. Accuracy is not a roll of the dice when you buy. At the first World Revolver Championship, a a top International Class sharpshooter told me that he and three other steel shooters bought 19 Ruger Silhouette Supers to end up sharing one for serious torurnament. Now, the hypothetical “average” magnum afficianato may die with a smile on his or her face having never experienced this level of accuracy. If there is a rule of revolver accuracy, with Freedom Arms you buy once, and arrive. 2) Brittle firing pin. As a fierce advocate of DRY FIRE, it rankles me that the Freedom Arms has an equally fierce propensity for breaking the firing pin. Therefore, interpose a resilient cushion between hammer and firing pin for dry fire. Snap caps are better than nothing, but the snap cap must a good one and strongly sprung. Still, I prefer a hank of cowhide, lead, or rubber in the frame slot for dry firing the Freedom Arms. Now I must gratuitously add a third element to the construction of a Freedom Arms3) A Freedom Arms is TIGHT. Dick Casull wandered angelic into the stratosphere of revolver ballistics. Pushing the limits. A superb machinist, close tolerances came natural to Dick Casull. Yet, he also discovered you can’t run a loose rocket. The higher we drive velocity, the tighter we must drive tolerances. The great reliability factor of a revolver begins at the cylinder. Which instantly separates chamber from bore. To hold all that gas behind a bullet, dimensions must be firm. Otherwise the pressure is wasted gas. David Bradshaw Excellent.....
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