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Post by jfs on Aug 29, 2019 19:50:27 GMT -5
How regularly are you guys running into trouble with the firing pins?? In the last 23 years I`ve had three pins break on my model 83`s. One each in 454, 357 and 475.. I made a spanner bit that fits the removable bushing and carry a spare and spring in my gun case. For snap caps I use those sold by Freedom. They cost more but are sturdy... The Ken O`Neil front sights are a perfect addition as can be seen in kings6 photo of his 5 1/2" custom.
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Post by mobjack on Aug 30, 2019 13:57:43 GMT -5
Too bad a 5 1/2" custom ordered barrel wouldn't scratch your itch Dick. Mine has the factory action job, black micartas, Ken O'Neil front sight and the 5 1/2" barrel. A lot less than a new one. Can you tell me about the hammer? To my eyes, it looks like a Ruger Bisley.
Mobjack
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Post by kings6 on Aug 30, 2019 14:23:20 GMT -5
It is a bisley hammer. Several years ago I worked with Alan Harton on cutting off the factory hammer spur and grafting on a bisley spur. It took a couple try’s to get to this configuration. Alan doesn’t do these any longer but when I pointed another FA owner to him for the same thing Alan hooked the customer up with John Powers to try and do the job. I showed the gun to Bob Baker of FA and he said Lynn Thompson of Colt Steel knives has been trying to get him to do one like this for several years so Bob was going to point Lynn in the same direction. It makes it much easier for my short fat opposable phalange to reach the hammer.
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Post by matts on Aug 31, 2019 12:28:54 GMT -5
Well, it’s official. I ordered the 10” field grade today. Sling and swivels with a trigger screw. Delete sights since it will be dedicated scope gun. Going with the leupold mount and looking at the Burris 2-7 or the leupold 4x. I’m new to 41 mag so I will be ordering dies and brass. And source some aa#9, sounds like it is really beneficial in this caliber.
They said 4-5 weeks so just a short wait.
Thanks for all the help with the information.
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Post by foxtrapper on Aug 31, 2019 13:01:31 GMT -5
Well, it’s official. I ordered the 10” field grade today. Sling and swivels with a trigger screw. Delete sights since it will be dedicated scope gun. Going with the leupold mount and looking at the Burris 2-7 or the leupold 4x. I’m new to 41 mag so I will be ordering dies and brass. And source some aa#9, sounds like it is really beneficial in this caliber. They said 4-5 weeks so just a short wait. Thanks for all the help with the information. Woo hoo! My dream gun to a t ! Congratulations!
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Post by rjm52 on Sept 4, 2019 5:13:41 GMT -5
Great for you... In that LONG barrel I would go with H110 or maybe even AAC-1680 for top velocity.... I have several of the 2-7 Burris and with the Ballistic Drop Reticle and it has become my favorite handgun and Scout rifle scope... Don't know what you like for dies but for a crimp die I've been using the Lee Carbide Factory Crimp Die with excellent results. Favorite commercial cast bullet in my 6" 83 is the Cast Performance 255 with 22.0 grains of H110... Gary Reeder has driven this bullet through Cape and Savannah Buffalo in a .410 GNR with one shot drops... Here is a thread on .41s that have lots of good links and posts... castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?276144-41-Magnum-41-Special-Load-Data-CenterBob
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Post by 45shooterii on Sept 4, 2019 9:14:13 GMT -5
New to the forum, but thought I would send in my two cents.
My shooting buddy and I own almost 20 of these Freedom Arms revolvers. All are model 83's. I tried the model 97 and like Bradshaw, I didn't care for it grip-wise. Didn't "feel right" in the hand, or balance like the model 83. Sold the model 97 within the week I purchased it. We have almost all of the main-line calibers: 22 LR, 357 Mag, 41 Mag, 44 Mag, 454 and 475 LB. Most are Premier grade revolvers, with a few Varmint class 22's mixed in. All are tack drivers out to 100 yards, regardless of barrel length or caliber. We've never owned one that wouldn't out-shoot anything else available. Sold all of our Rugers and several S&W's to fund the Freedom Arms guns. Everything else pails in quality to the Freedom Arms.
As for set up, we have come to always order our guns with a trigger job and over travel screw. Everything else I can live with as they come. If you buy a used one as we have done, you'll become friends with "John" in repairs at Freedom Arms. John does a fantastic trigger job on these revolvers...worth every dime you pay for it! If you ever get a trigger job done to one of these, you'll have a hard time going back to shooting these guns without one. Ask me how I know. My advice would be to add the trigger job now, as it will be cheaper than sending it back later.
As for caliber selection on critters, I don't hunt anymore and when I did I used the 44 Magnum because I shot it the best and had the most ammo lying around for it. My guess is that the 41 Magnum you ordered would be very close in performance using a 210 gr Hornady with 18.5 grs of 2400 powder.
Congratulations on your new purchase. I know you'll be pleased with the caliber and gun. One problem though...Freedom Arms revolvers are a lot like potato chips, since you can't have just one.
45ShooterII
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Post by edk on Sept 4, 2019 13:46:04 GMT -5
Why do these need a trigger job? Is it just to set the weight or is the letoff quality poor? Except for a specific weight it is hard to imagine why quality wouldn't be addressed during production at the price point.
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Post by svo44 on Sept 4, 2019 14:44:21 GMT -5
can you guys explain the over travel screw- why would i need one?
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Post by bamagreg on Sept 4, 2019 16:22:25 GMT -5
Why do these need a trigger job? Is it just to set the weight or is the letoff quality poor? Except for a specific weight it is hard to imagine why quality wouldn't be addressed during production at the price point. That's what I was thinking. Why does a $3,000 "Premier Grade" revolver need a trigger job?
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Post by nick on Sept 4, 2019 17:16:57 GMT -5
When it comes to the optional trigger job on the M97 I say pass . I have several examples with and without and my finger and trigger pull gage can’t tell one from the other .
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Post by bradshaw on Sept 5, 2019 7:14:12 GMT -5
can you guys explain the over travel screw- why would i need one? ***** An adjusted overtravel screw, or trigger stop, stops reward sweep of trigger immediately after hammer fall. It may----or may not----contribute to hand steadiness while the bullet is inside the gun. Many match competitors want a trigger stop. The Freedom Arms M83 lends itself to a trigger stop, and I prefer one on the M83. While I am used to all sorts of triggers, I adjust to an individual mechanism in the service of FOLLOW THROUGH----the ultimate test of proper trigger squeeze. The 1973 Ruger New Model transfer bar system requires rearward trigger movement to raise the transfer bar over the firing pin. The New Model does not lend itself to a trigger stop. Doesn’t matter in the least to me, as I read it as a conscious measure of follow through. I prefer a trigger stop on Smith & Wesson single action fire, but live perfectly well well without it. The great 2-stage trigger of John Garand’s M1 and its offspring M-14 (borrowed from John Browning’s Auto-5 shotgun of 1900), serve sharpshooting perfectly well without a trigger stop. The Olympic Gold Anschutz 1827 Fortner Biathlon rifle has a fabulous 2-stage trigger with stop. Back to the Freedom Arms: I prefer a trigger stop. David Bradshaw
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Post by matts on Sept 5, 2019 14:32:13 GMT -5
The trigger stop was such a small priced option compared to the revolver I figured it was for sure worth it. I’ve had trigger stops before and I don’t know that it helped me, but it definitely didn’t hurt. This gun is meant to be a copy of my magnaport stalker in 454 and may some day be sent out to have magnaport shorten and recrown the barrel and do an action job. On Freedom arms site they show there action job reduces trigger pull from somewhere around 4.25 to 3.5 pounds. I’m not sure what the magnaport trigger job is but it feels very much lighter than stock fa 83 or 97.
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Post by potatojudge on Sept 5, 2019 18:22:46 GMT -5
While FA trigger weight and break are very shootable from the factory, the smoothness of the action can be improved.
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Post by magman on Sept 5, 2019 19:18:35 GMT -5
I have Magnaport trigger jobs on 2 of my FAs. Nice improvement. I have a 353 that has a trigger job with overtravel scree. Not sure who did it, but it is very light and crisp.
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