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Post by silcott on May 6, 2019 14:02:55 GMT -5
It didn't take long to find a load that my 77/35 loved. I'm shooting a 158gr. XTP-FP over a stiff load of 2400. It shoots around 3/4" @100yd. The rifle is topped with a VX ii scope. This combination has filled my freezer many times. I never tried the iron sights.
Justin
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Post by bagdadjoe on May 7, 2019 11:18:21 GMT -5
As I understand it, this rifle has a 2 piece bolt and a lot of them are "accuracy challenged". The cure is a shim between the two segments to tighten the bolt up to make it more solid. This from a fellow who bought my .22 Hornet Handi and it massacreed his Ruger in accuracy. I don't know the exact "shim" thickness or the procedure...an internet search should turn up something. Not even sure if the bolt on the 44 is the same, but it would be one thing to check and fix or just disregard if not.
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Post by bagdadjoe on May 7, 2019 12:40:57 GMT -5
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Post by squawberryman on May 7, 2019 20:21:52 GMT -5
That link above produces one of the neatest to see websites. Products, tools, videos, etc. Some guy LOVES his Ruger rifles.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 21:54:50 GMT -5
As I understand it, this rifle has a 2 piece bolt and a lot of them are "accuracy challenged". The cure is a shim between the two segments to tighten the bolt up to make it more solid. This from a fellow who bought my .22 Hornet Handi and it massacreed his Ruger in accuracy. I don't know the exact "shim" thickness or the procedure...an internet search should turn up something. Not even sure if the bolt on the 44 is the same, but it would be one thing to check and fix or just disregard if not. I'm trying to understand how the shims would help if there are no ignition issues or signs of excessive headspace. Any theories? Maybe more consistent back thrust on the locking lugs? As I think about it, 3 rifles with this action have crossed my path over tthe years. The first was a beautiful little 22 Hornet that never did better than 3 MOA, the second a 22LR that was adequate but ultimately never shot the way a heavy barreled rifle should have. Wish the shims had been out then! I may try shims, but I am mainly thinking of trying it again with different loads and possibly another scope first. A project gun really isn't what I had in mind, especially for this price range. Of course, I could just send it to Ruger and let them deal with it...
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Post by Longhunter1750 on May 8, 2019 8:32:13 GMT -5
I put bolt shims in my 77 .22hornet, cut my 100yd groups down by 1/2". For $10 bucks whats it gonna hurt to try, sure cheaper than a new scope or the hassle of sending it back to Ruger.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 13:09:19 GMT -5
I put bolt shims in my 77 .22hornet, cut my 100yd groups down by 1/2". For $10 bucks whats it gonna hurt to try, sure cheaper than a new scope or the hassle of sending it back to Ruger. Yep, agreed on the shims. Gonna try it with some different loads first. The 250 Keith wouldn't fit in the magazine in magnum brass. Fits and feeds great in 44 SPL brass... Hum. May try H110 with the XTP too, although it sticks the powder bar on my SDB.
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Post by bagdadjoe on May 11, 2019 20:42:43 GMT -5
Headspace is not the only thing the shims resolve...they essentially make the rwo-piece bolt more rigid...less slop.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2019 23:10:36 GMT -5
Headspace is not the only thing the shims resolve...they essentially make the rwo-piece bolt more rigid...less slop. That make sense. Will have to get some. Tried a couple of 44SPL loads today. My load of a 250 Keith over 9 grains of BE-86 was a bust. The good news is she seems to really like H110. A 240 XTP over 18.5 grains of H110 in SPL brass shot into about 2.5 -3 MOA (Good enough) The wild flyers were gone, even with a hot barrel.. Need to try a 44 Mag H110 load asap.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 10:09:23 GMT -5
Yesterday she showed some real improvement so the shim kit and Volquartsen sear are on order. Once everything is worked out, this should be a sweet little backwoods hunter.
Also compared the front sight on my rifle to a friend's 77/44. His factory front sight is .1" lower than mine, lol. Guess that'll be getting an upgrade too.
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Post by cas on May 12, 2019 10:30:18 GMT -5
Volquartsen trigger parts make a huge difference!
I've a 77/357 (that's for sale) that before I even fired it, I bought a shim kit for it. And when I got them... I couldn't put them in. I guess I got one of the few guns that DON'T need them lol.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2019 14:47:21 GMT -5
The folks at triggershims.com put the parts in my hands pronto! They are highly recommended.
The Volquartsen sear was a true drop in and the trigger is a clean 32oz now. Wow! The bolt ended up with a .003" shim that took the slop out but still allows the bolt to close with very little drag.
Off to the range tomorrow...
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Post by Stump Buster on May 16, 2019 18:51:26 GMT -5
Looking forward to the post shooting update! Have a 77/357 that may be improved with the shims and a new trigger.
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Post by Rimfire69 on May 17, 2019 8:40:28 GMT -5
That trigger kit is a worthy upgrade, my 77/357 had it installed when I bought it and is night and day different than the stock 77/44 trigger.
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Post by dave19113 on May 27, 2019 6:13:05 GMT -5
Just wondering if anyone here has experience with the 77/44 (or 357). Took my new stainless 44 out for a test run this weekend and wasn't pleased with the initial results. The rifle is shooting 50 yard groups arou d 1 1/2 - 3 inches. It seemed to really throw shots when the barrel warmed. Scope is an old 2x4 Bushnell Elite 3200 that has been fine on other guns. Also couldn't get enough elevation to zero the irons at 25 yards. Come on Ruger, really? Also, the trigger must really make that damn Ruger lawyer smile. Tried two loads with IMR4227 that shoot great in my Deerfield (and 94). Loads were 240 and 300 grain Hornady XTP. Plan to try a few more loads but thought someone here might have a suggestion on what it may take to make it shoot. I'd be happy with 3 MOA and no wild a$$ fliers. If I can get it there she'll make a great rainy day hunting rifle. I have a 77/44 that I absolutely love NOW. When I first got it, it was a challenge to find a good load for it.
Lead bullets were fair at best. Alot of flyers.
I then switched to jacketed bullets over a stout load of H110 ( I have to look in my load book for data)
I use Nosler Sport Handgun Revolver Bullet, 240 gr JSP or Hornady XTP 240 gr HP. Both work excellent producing consistent 1" groups at 50 yards.
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