boots
.240 Incinerator
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Post by boots on Apr 21, 2019 7:21:33 GMT -5
Jeff Quinn uses a Ransom Rest to get the tight groups and I will never be able to come close to his grouping. I have seldom seen so much interest in a new gun so Ruger must be doing something right. GO RUGER.
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Post by CraigC on Apr 21, 2019 9:59:46 GMT -5
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Post by needsmostuff on Apr 21, 2019 11:37:14 GMT -5
After reading (and looking at the pictures )the Quinn article I am more at ease with this being a shootable gun . But I also hear grumbling about the paint and finish issues and a question pops up. This a site FULL of folks who buy brand new $1000 dollar or more guns and before ever shooting them either by DIY or send off to the finest G-smiths in the country for changes. Yeah ? So why is this gun NOT being viewed as a easily affordable blank canvas to cosmetically play with ?? If the cylinder and barrel are real deal steel they could be polished and blued or browned. Real aluminum frames could be striped and fit better . Grip frame could be rounded or mildly reshaped, polish the frames and make some grips. Bet ya Fermin has the perfect dove tail sight to regulate with. I've spent more for beaters to play with so is this possibly be the perfect canvas to go all DIY Tinkerpearce on ?
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Post by coldtriggerfinger on Apr 21, 2019 13:32:02 GMT -5
I just think it's a great little gun as is. , maybe do or have done a little trigger work. I myself never "got" the draw of the Bearcat . Think it looks kinda funny . But the Wrangler just looks like a cowboy gun. The parts appear to fit together well. I really like the burnt bronze color also. I don't really feel drawn to making it a 22 mag either. Its a 22 rimfire. Which means I can shoot Shorts , Longs and long rifle ammo in it. CCI has a great 22 rf sub sonic Long that pushes a 29 gr bullet @ around 725 fps iirc. Really nice and quiet and great for shooting squirrels off the ends of the cabin logs. Or out of nearby trees. My BuckMark won't shoot Shorts or longs so it's noisier.
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Post by CraigC on Apr 21, 2019 14:49:00 GMT -5
I could see farting around with one to lighten it up a little. Maybe scallop the recoil shield. Substitute an aluminum grip frame if it really is zinc. Aluminum ejector housing. I would just bead blast all the aluminum and leave it bare. Roundbutt it, install some nice grips. IMHO, it's more limited than a steel Single Six but still has some potential.
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edk
.375 Atomic
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Post by edk on Apr 22, 2019 6:22:20 GMT -5
Actually why not polymer? After all Ruger has 10 years of experience with the LCR in polymer. Grip frame would be a cinch. Clearly the strength of the cylinder frame has been worked out well enough for 357mag in the LCR? How about a 22 barrel liner within a polymer 4.62" tube? Have to believe that this was at least discussed as one option behind those closed Ruger doors. It should have been considerably lighter than this version. Would today's gun buying population really reject Glock/AR black? This firearm certainly was not designed to reach the average member of this board.
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scotth
.30 Stingray
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Post by scotth on Apr 22, 2019 9:30:16 GMT -5
the lcr in 22lr 22mag and 38 special are aluminum frame with a polymer grip frame. the 327 fed mag and 357 mag are stainless steel frame with polymer grip frame i think the 9mm is also stainless steal. thay all have a stainless steel cylinder and barrel.
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Post by contender on Apr 22, 2019 9:35:09 GMT -5
As a longtime Ruger collector,, and shooter,, I have studied & enjoyed the success of Sturm, Ruger & Co. When Bill started up,, by borrowing $50,000 from Alex Sturm,, he was gambling. He had already failed when he tried to build tools of very high quality for that era. Why? because they cost too much for the working man. Enter his ideas of how to build quality firearms AND not cost as much as the competition. And we got the Standard Auto. As Bill was a smart man,, he saw his sales explode,, and he was off & running. Never HAD to borrow money again. But stop & think of how he built the company. Innovative designs,, and manufacturing processes that allowed him to build & sell guns of quality for less than the competition. He took on the "big boys" and became one of the big boys BECAUSE of all this. His castings & such,, poo-pooed by many "knowledgeable" gun folks proved them wrong,, as the working man bought, used, abused & liked his offerings.
Fast forward to today. Ruger is the big boy on the block,, and as such,, other companies have introduced cheaply made guns trying for a share of the poor man's wallet contents. They are getting it too. Hi-Point, Heritage, & others come to mind. So, the good folks at Ruger have stepped back, looked at their roots, and they too have invested in the most modern & proven methods of manufacturing to see where & how they can once again build a working mans gun,, at a price that the average Joe can afford. The current gun buyer by large is wanting semi-auto, black, plastic & tactical. So,, Ruger has been innovative in that arena. But now they are doing it with the SA line by introducing the Wrangler. Looking at the pictures,, watching Jeff put one through the paces, studying the information & reviews,, I see a winner.
Is it traditional blue steel & wood? No. Is it tactical? No. Is it expensive? No. Does it feel the same as a higher priced Single-Six? We'll see,, but most likely not quite.
BUT,, it does have the ability to get more folks interested in SA's again. It does allow a working man a gun to use AND abuse if they desire. It does allow the poor man a chance to buy a NEW gun at a price point they can more readily afford. It does offer the opportunity for a first gun for a kid.
And it does all this with Ruger quality & design history behind it.
I say this;
GIVE IT A CHANCE before passing judgement.
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lws
.30 Stingray
Spokane Valley, Washington
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Post by lws on Apr 22, 2019 9:37:43 GMT -5
Personally I think it will be a great little gun for a camp, truck , or tractor gun or on the ATV. First time gun. Or even for an old feller like me on s/s. Make a great grouse getter .I know I'll have one as soon as my LGS can get me one. Also it will be black. May put a birdshead grip on it even.
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Post by magnumwheelman on Apr 22, 2019 10:58:59 GMT -5
Am I understanding that the cylinder is aluminum, with steel inserts???
barrel looks sleeved also???
I do kinda like the bronze colored one...
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boots
.240 Incinerator
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Post by boots on Apr 22, 2019 11:26:46 GMT -5
With 3 colors I can get a black for the truck, a silver for the ATV and a bronze for the tractor. Life is good.
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Post by foxtrapper on Apr 22, 2019 11:56:42 GMT -5
Am I understanding that the cylinder is aluminum, with steel inserts??? barrel looks sleeved also??? I do kinda like the bronze colored one... Quote from gunblast. “The barrel, cylinder, and small parts are made of steel.“
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Joe S.
.401 Bobcat
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Post by Joe S. on Apr 22, 2019 12:09:31 GMT -5
It’s like Happy Meal toys. Collect all three! Lol
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Post by magnumwheelman on Apr 22, 2019 12:50:46 GMT -5
picture of the cylinder on line sure looks like it has steel liners for the chambers... barrel is harder to tell, with the crown
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Post by 45MAN on Apr 22, 2019 13:48:29 GMT -5
AT AROUND $200, AND WITH THE RUGER NAME ON IT, I THINK THEY WILL SELL GILLIONS OF THEM, I KNOW I AM BUYING ONE, AND THERE IS STILL A LITTLE BIT OF "COWBOY" IN A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE.
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