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Post by bradshaw on Dec 30, 2018 10:21:59 GMT -5
I'll look at the B22F Left Hand, David, thanks for the advice. Savage's model numbering system and product description, leaves me in the dark. Which isn't that tough to do come to think about it. ***** Sight unseen, my hand reaches for the CZ. I’ve shot the 452 in its permutations, including left hand, and a 455. There are slight differences in manufacturing detail, mainly in the 455 barrel which tenon is clamped in the receiver ring via draw bolts, allowing barrels to be swapped. I immensely enjoy the Ultra Lux with 28.6-inch barrel and excellent tangent sights. At 74, I consider iron sights important, that marksmanship must be played with irons, on rifle as well as handgun. Thus, I respect your wanting irons on a .22 rifle. Short of the Anschutz and Izhmash caper, the Savage peep arrangement warrants attention. The peeps fell victim to hot sun flare on our frozen Christmas day, but that is no criticism for the aperture in most shooting. Reflection on the Savage target disk made centering the eye nearly impossible, which crippling would have challenged but not wrecked my favorite, the M1 Garand aperture. While I cannot make your selection, I’d focus on the left hand bolt, and sugar it off from there. David Bradshaw |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 12:54:48 GMT -5
The new CZ 457 fixes the "backward" safety and stamped trigger guard that have kept me from buying a CZ rimfire for many years. Not sure why they didn't go with a 22" barrel but that is an easy enough fix. Would also have preferred a gloss blue finish and steel magazine, so they went backward (IMHO) in those areas. CZ 457
 They are a bit pricey and the plastic parts are out of place on a 22 sporter, but the Browning T-Bolt is a classy little rim fire too. |
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Post by ezekiel38 on Dec 30, 2018 17:27:51 GMT -5
wowser!
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Post by WARDOG on Dec 31, 2018 12:21:49 GMT -5
If you are not in a hurry to expend your ammunition, the H&R model 12 is a serious shooter for $400. The Redfield olympic globe sights are substantial. Sure, it won't win any beauty contests and has the heft to beat a rhino senseless (if'n you have the stones to do such a thing), but they are fine shooters for the $.
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Post by squawberryman on Dec 31, 2018 19:51:04 GMT -5
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Post by Stump Buster on Dec 31, 2018 21:01:07 GMT -5
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Post by dmize on Jan 3, 2019 12:37:46 GMT -5
Ultra Lux,3-9 scope and CCI CB Shorts makes you feel like a mafia hit man in the squirrel woods.
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Post by bradshaw on Jan 4, 2019 18:35:46 GMT -5
Ultra Lux,3-9 scope and CCI CB Shorts makes you feel like a mafia hit man in the squirrel woods. ***** Derrell.... have a feeling the Mossad may have used a Beretta .22 pistol to put the crimp on Gerald Bull, brilliant ballistics engineer of Space Research, in a Belgian apartment house, adjusted to sound like your Ultra Lux. Sharp memory of shooting the Winchester Model 52 of my youth, scant recall of the rifle’s specifications; thinking a 28” barrel, sure was quiet. We stepped outside the gallery confines to shoot our .22 target rifles offhand @ 100 yards. What a revelation in trajectory and wind drift! Back to the mafia: they weren’t always quiet in New York. I listened to mafia hits, close to Little Italy, yet always outside the sovereignty zone, west of Center Street to be exact, one winter night, one summer night, rounds pumped into bodies or soon to be bodies. Secrecy without silence contains message. Usually, leastwise them days, the revolver gets rubbed with a rattail file down the bore, to be tossed off the Williamsburg or Brooklyn Bridge. Those days, a hit gun got ditched fast. Later on, probably about the time tasting the product showed, a fool would keep a hit gun. David Bradshaw |
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Post by Rimfire69 on Jan 5, 2019 9:19:54 GMT -5
Those CCI CB shorts are great but I don’t always see them on the shelves, I had a good supply at one time, but my boys have dwindled it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 10:12:27 GMT -5
Those CCI CB shorts are great but I don’t always see them on the shelves, I had a good supply at one time, but my boys have dwindled it. CCI Quiet 22LR is a good alternative. In longer barrels it is pretty quiet and is available. Accurate too. |
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Post by bradshaw on Jan 5, 2019 10:19:40 GMT -5
I’d be afraid of getting a CB cap stuck in Ultra Lux musket. Must be o.k., if dmize says so. Got to listen extra, in case it squibs.
David Bradshaw
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Post by alukban on Jan 5, 2019 12:20:23 GMT -5
I have compared a CZ Lux (not “Ultra”) side-by-side with Marlin 39A using CCI Shorts and found the Marlin quieter - to the shooter.
I am guessing it is because the chamber of the Marlin is more fully enclosed by action’s design.
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Post by awp101 on Jan 5, 2019 13:42:14 GMT -5
 And I want one of those 28" Ultra-Luxes as well... |
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Post by bradshaw on Jan 5, 2019 13:46:22 GMT -5
I have compared a CZ Lux (not “Ultra”) side-by-side with Marlin 39A using CCI Shorts and found the Marlin quieter - to the shooter. I am guessing it is because the chamber of the Marlin is more fully enclosed by action’s design. ***** The CZ 452 & 457 Lux has a 28.8-inch barrel, in practical terms 25-inches. My Marlin Model 39 Mountie take-down had a 20” barrel. If one of the two rifles has a tighter chamber, I suspect it’s the CZ. In any case, both lever and bolt remain breeched until you manual the action. (Just made a verb out of “manual.”) Reckon you could test your theory by having a friend hold a length of garden hose between the receiver ring and his or her ear while you shoot. David Bradshaw |
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Post by cmillard on Jan 5, 2019 20:38:21 GMT -5
The Ruger precision rim fire is anything but precision! I am looking at rebarreling mine. I am also eyeballing the new cz 457
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