Taylor Throating

[Mark Terry]

In copying part of the old forum, there was a post about the (controversial) process of Taylor Throating. I thought about trying it on an OMV 45LC which no matter what I've done this far, shoots patterns. I have not exhausted the possible loads but unlike anything else I have, this one doesn't seem to like anything.

The problem with the old post was that there wasn't any follow up. Does anyone have any practical experience with results of Taylor Throating?

Why did you decide to do it or have it done and did it improve your results?

[Aggie01]

First, do you mind if I ask what you have done to the gun so far?

Cylinder throats are the No. 1 culprit for .45 Colt Rugers shooting patterns.

[kings6]

You might want to see what Jim Stroh says about it on his website, Alpha Precision.

[hoss]

Make sure you check the throats first, and if that ain't the problem check the bore for constriction... My stainless AccuBisHawk is taylor throated. It can tighten groups, and, according to Bowen, it can't hurt.

[Mark Terry]

Aggie01:
Throats have been reamed using the Brownell's Manson Reamer and the forcing cone has been cut to 11 degrees (using Brownell's tools). Other work includes Wolff springs and general polishing of hammer, trigger, etc. I have trigger and hammer shims to install but haven't done so yet.

Pin gauges indicate a minor constriction in the barrel where its threaded into the frame and I have other Rugers with the same phenomena without any of the same 'patterns'.

It's a really nice gun and I'd like to keep it.

I have read Jim Stroh's discussion of Taylor Throating and it's obvious he believes in it but I wanted to see if some forum members had experienced miracles after the procedure.

[AxeHandle]

I traded for a Bisley Hunter 44 that has been Taylor throated by Stroh. I don't think I have even fired it yet...

[mikemc]

Mark,

I sent my 44 blackhawk to Jim Stroh for his Accuracy Package. It was grouping about 2 to 2 1/2" before it now groups in the 1 to 1 1/2" range (All groups at 25 yards off of a bench) Needless say I am happy with the procedure but I can't say that all guns will respond the same way.

Mike

[the priest]

I have a couple that have been throated. Both saw gain,....one more than the other.

Have you thought about fire lapping?

[spurrit]

He's not much on "finish work", is he? You'd think, at the very least, he coulda wiped it down, if not hand lapped it smooth.

[jgt]

I got a Taylor throating reamer from Clymer's when I first learned they had agreed to make them. I bought a vaquero 44 mag off the classified board at the ruger forum. I didn't shoot bad but not as good as I felt it could. I slugged the barrel and found a severe restriction where the barrel screwed into the frame. I thought this would be a good candidate to cut my first Taylor throat since I doubted I could hurt it. I got my kit out and tried to throat it and found the restriction so severe the pilot of the reamer would not go into the barrel. I had to hand lap the restriction out until the pilot would enter the lands. Then I cut the throat. I have to say it didn't shoot like a FA but it was so much better and was consistent. I would do it again if I found another gun that needed it. I also found to my surprise my 629 no dash also had a restriction. I cut a Taylor throat in it and it shot better also. I thought it shot mediocre because it was one of their first stainless and the metal was not as good for guns as the carbon steel ones. I was wrong. The gun shoots much better today. I have read detrimental thing on the Internet about Taylor throating but that hasn't been my experience.

[Mark Terry]

That's an AHA moment. Thanks jgt for the info. Taylor Throating makes more sense to me than 'fire-lapping'.

I'm at a point where I need to decide to one or the other and all I needed was a little encouragement. What do I have to lose? I can Taylor Throat it and if that doesn't improve it to something I like, I can then fire lap it. Then if I'm not satisfied, I can send it off for re-barrelling. I really wanted a 7.5" anyway.

I realize I could trade it off but I don't like the thought of having someone discover its problems. Wonder what I could get if I describe it as "pretty and shoots good patterns"?

Let's see, I think Brownell's still has the Clymer reamer......

Thanks Guys

[shorty500]

traded into a cheap Beretta/Uberti once. since the barrel wasn't turned so that the front sight was vertical and it was off for point of impact and the barrel had to come off anyway to shave a bit off the shoulder to get it aligned correctly i went ahead and closed the barrel/cylinder gap and Taylor throated it to remove a minor restricion. that gun was nite & day change. only one have ever done myself but have owned/testfired a few Taylor throated guns that shot GREAT that the owner or previous owner as the case may be said was an ABSOLUTE DOG before the throating

[Mark Terry]

Brownell's says the .45 Taylor Throating Reamer was dropped by the factory. The June '08 Clymer catalog lists the reamer, so I called Clymer direct but it's after hours, the phone message says they're closed tomorrow. Suppose I'll call Monday.

Anyone have one to sell??

[shawn45]

taylor throating turned my Single six from blah to scary accurate.

[jgt]

A little about the Clymer "Taylor Throating Reamers". I found it is cheaper and faster to go straight to Climers for them. Clymers doesn't make a brass lap for them because they claim you don't need them for their reamers. Their kit consists of a Dewey Pistol cleaning rod, thread adapter, and reamer. I would recommend anyone with the Brownell's forcing cone cutter kit to use the T-handle, rod, and bushing from that kit as the Clymer reamer will thread onto the rod. All I did was order a second bushing from Brownell's to insure the rod was straight with the center line of the bore. If you do not have the Brownell's Kit I would still recommend buying just the reamer and not the reamer kit from Clymer and network your friends to see who has a forcing cone cutter kit and use it. I called Clymer to give them feedback That most of us would prefer to pay more to get a T-handle, rod, and a couple of bushing, but their response was "Thanks very much for sharing". I would not recommend using that set up they call a "Kit" for cutting a throat in a barrel. It would be a shame to have cylinders that line up properly with a barrel and while removing the restriction the throat was cut off center to the bore.