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Post by rigby on Jun 30, 2009 22:26:50 GMT -5
Good friend of mine has made several trips to Africa over the last couple of years and told me as far as he knows handguns are persona non grata. Does anyone know what the status of hunting in Africa with handguns is? If they arent allowed anymore does that now make the 500 the best gun for the American hunter? Since the 4 feet of penetration needed for Cape Buffalo and Elephant isnt needed. And do the 50 caliber holes have an advantage with Bear and Bison?
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Post by sixshot on Jun 30, 2009 22:40:15 GMT -5
If this is true its just happened in the last 30-40 dyas, 4 of my friends just returned & 2 of them had handguns. Having said that, its now law that any handgun going into Africa has to be scoped, I guess the reason is, its harder to carry concealed, not sure.
Anyway, when I was there everyone was carrying a handgun, usually a Glock 23 stuck in their waist band.
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Post by Aggie01 on Jun 30, 2009 23:51:36 GMT -5
JRH told me he was unable to take a handgun on his recent trip.
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Post by Fowler on Jul 1, 2009 11:09:27 GMT -5
I think people need to stop saying Africa as a induvisual country, the rules are different in every country there just like here, and some are easier to deal with than others. I know you can still handgun hunt in South Africa but getting the permits are a pain in the butt, and will probably require some palm greasing when you go through customs but it is legal. I know a few other countries are pretty handgun friendly but many will not allow handguns in their country under any circumstances.
I aquaintance was traveling from SA to Botswana many years ago after shooting at the IPSC world championships. He asked the customs agent what he should do with his pair of 1911s while he was hunting. He said "Sir I would load one and put it on your right hip, then load the other and put it on your left hip, and don't take them off till you leave our country!" Times are different today....
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Post by nobearsyet on Jul 1, 2009 11:23:48 GMT -5
Fowler's right, it depends on the country in Africa you're going to
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Post by rigby on Jul 1, 2009 11:31:29 GMT -5
Fowler your right just seems I have heard that before about Africa. I was guessing their not all going to the same place. Looking at a map of Africa looks like there is only about 9 countries that one could or would want to hunt in. Does any one know what countries are handgun friendly?
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Post by nobearsyet on Jul 1, 2009 11:57:49 GMT -5
I have n oclue, but I'd give Reeder a call as it seems he makes semi-regular trips over there and would probably know
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Post by tjcmo on Jul 1, 2009 12:07:50 GMT -5
I have hunted South Africa with handguns twice and the regulations, as of 2005, were No Double Actions or Semi Autos,. A handgun has to be made for "Hunting Pourposes only", whatever that means. Single actions, single shots and bolt actions are OK, but only with a scope attached. Zimbabwe is the only other African Country that I am aware allows handguns, but a permit is EXTREMELY difficult to obtain.
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Post by Ken O'Neill on Jul 2, 2009 20:46:22 GMT -5
I have hunted in Zimbabwe and South Africa with handguns, and close friends have hunted in Mozambique and Zambia with them. They are not permitted in Botswana (although somehow, Mohammed Tobah was able to legally import them and take elephant with them several years ago...maybe about 2000?) , Namibia, or Tanzania. Mark Hampton was able to take Bongo in either the CAR or Cameroon * recently with a handgun, but without calling him or researching his article, I don't recall which country. Very few other African countries have developed safari industries, or else their hunting has been stopped from time to time by government edict. Ethiopia is the classic example of such interruption.
All African hunting regulations are subject to change and one contemplating such a hunt needs to deal with an EXPERT outfitter who has a proven record of researching the current facts.
* It was the CAR
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Post by bigbore442001 on Jul 5, 2009 7:21:48 GMT -5
From what I understand there is a greater amount of political turmoil in Africa. If I had the means and desire to go on an African hunt, I'd do it now before it is gone.
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Post by Ken O'Neill on Jul 5, 2009 7:32:45 GMT -5
From what I understand there is a greater amount of political turmoil in Africa. If I had the means and desire to go on an African hunt, I'd do it now before it is gone. That is certainly wise advice. The "Golden Age" for handgunners in Africa, if there ever was such a thing, was probably the very late '80's and the' 90's. It is headed in the wrong direction now, and you shouldn't put it off, if it's something you want to do. |
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Post by tjcmo on Jul 6, 2009 18:11:27 GMT -5
From what I understand there is a greater amount of political turmoil in Africa. If I had the means and desire to go on an African hunt, I'd do it now before it is gone. I agree 100%. African hunting, as we know it, will most likely be just a memory in the not too distant future.  |
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