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Post by Lee Martin on Oct 24, 2011 7:51:18 GMT -5
Really nice Cattleman. I've always had a thing for Ubertis....every one I've ever owned was a strong shooter and well fit. -Lee www.singleactions.com
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Post by vonfatman on Oct 24, 2011 20:23:11 GMT -5
I have left it out on my bench...hence I've been handling it a fair amount and it does grow on you! Nice thing about a $200 gun...I can leave it out of the safe and not loose too much sleep.
Bob
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Post by jayhawker on Oct 24, 2011 23:23:14 GMT -5
That funky "safety" is to allow it to be imported into the US, as it adds points on BATF's minimum point list. If you remove the hammer you will see how it can be easily removed/deactvated.
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Post by vonfatman on Oct 26, 2011 21:53:10 GMT -5
Mr jayhawker, Since I only "carry" in gun rugs (the range is 300 yards behind the house)...I will probably just leave it as is...unless it becomes a problem.
I appreciate the heads' up.
Bob
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Post by goodtime on Oct 27, 2011 2:22:00 GMT -5
Vonfatman --
To answer your question regarding how the Uberti safety works: The hammer has a pin running inside most of the length of it; one end protrudes into the safety notch in the bottom of the hammer and is pushed up when the hammer sear engages inside the safety notch. The other end of the pin engages a pivot and pushes the small safety hammer block (which you see in your 6th pic counting down from top) down along the groove you see running below it, and this block, when in place, acts to keep the hammer from falling so far into the frame as to allow the firing pin to touch a primer. In other words, when the safety is engaged and the hammer is subject to force as, for example, if the guns is dropped on the hammer, even if the safety notch on the bottom of the hammer breaks off or if the trigger sear breaks off, allowing the hammer to fall, (the reason Colt safeties are mistrusted) this small piece of metal will act as a hammer block, keeping the hammer sufficiently far away from the frame. Commonly accepted prudence still mistrusts this safety.
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Post by J Miller on Oct 27, 2011 9:43:32 GMT -5
Bob,
As far as that funky safety goes on your Cattleman it affects nothing. No reason to deactivate it.
Here is how it works. Goodtime was close but not quite complete in his description of it.
The safety block is fitted into the hammer and held in with a cross pin. It is actuated by a pin that runs lengthwise (vertically) in the hammer. One end of the pin contacts the safety block, the other protrudes from the quarter cock (safety ) notch of the hammer. This pin is also held in by a cross pin. The hammer block is held in the "off" position by a spring. When you put the hammer on safety and the trigger sear enters the safety notch it pushes the rod up which pivots the block down so that it mates up with it's flat in the frame. This prevents the hammer from falling all the way down. The thing is, it's really a flimsy cosmetic type of safety. The reason I say this is that if you drop it on the hammer and the trigger sear breaks, or the safety notch on the hammer breaks, the spring in the hammer will return the safety to the "OFF" position. Hense by the time it bounces the second time you're gonna have a AD. I carry mine with an empty round under the hammer. The only time I load six is at the range.
That is a really nice pistol. Kind of looks like mine did before I converted it to a steel grip frame.
Joe
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Post by Frank V on Oct 27, 2011 17:11:55 GMT -5
Congratulations. Nice gun especially for that money. I think you did well, enjoy. Frank
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Post by vonfatman on Oct 28, 2011 9:13:53 GMT -5
Gents, Thank you for the information on the safety and kind words. Since I'm kinda favoring SA revolvers....it seems like I need to have one of these in amongst the others. Great info!
Bob
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Post by slowbutsteady on Oct 29, 2011 21:11:29 GMT -5
You only need to load 5 unless you are expecting to exchange hostilities in the next few minutes or so. More than a few of the old-timers would roll up some paper money and stuff it into the 6th cylinder so they would always have eatin' money. If you are new to single actions: Load 1 round, skip one hole, load 4, draw to full cock, set the hammer down easy. The hammer should then be on the empty chamber. You may already know this, but I couldn't help myself. If 5 rounds don't stop what you're shooting at, the 6th might not help much. Long live 45 Colt.
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Post by dmize on Oct 29, 2011 21:33:39 GMT -5
I have 2 Uberiti's and LOVE them!! Kinda sucks when the lowest price gun locks up tighter than the most expensive one!!! As has been said,stick with the older SAA loads and all will be fine!! Dont know where I read it,but a simple way to properly load a SAA is to load 1,skip one and load 4. When the sixth is loaded the first will be in the laoding gate and a empty under the hammer when the gate is closed
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Post by vonfatman on Oct 29, 2011 21:47:30 GMT -5
Thanks guys. The older I get the more I enjoy SA revolvers...
I use less ammo and the empties fall into my hand (no searching for empties).
Bob
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Post by J Miller on Oct 30, 2011 9:48:37 GMT -5
Bob,
I never use any less ammo with my single actions than other types, it just takes me a wee bit longer to shoot it.
And I so enjoy not having to pick up the empties. Then again it don't make much difference, my lever guns fling 'em all over the place too.
Joe
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Post by vonfatman on Oct 30, 2011 10:22:38 GMT -5
Joe, I hear you. I forgot about my 1894s. They do keep me busy. Bob
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Post by Frank V on Oct 30, 2011 15:08:42 GMT -5
Another thing to not do, is lower the hammer from the half cock notch. Colts & clones are designed to have the hammer brought all the way to full cock then be lowered. If you lower the hammer from the half cock notch you will cause the locking bolt to drop onto the cylinder between the locking cuts on the cylinder. When you rotate the cylinder into locking, you will cause the locking bolt to drag on the cylinder. This is one thing that causes the turn ring seen on some SA revolvers. Enjoy that six-gun, you got a good buy! Frank
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Post by vonfatman on Oct 30, 2011 21:30:12 GMT -5
Thanks Frank. That's great advice. I will be sure to do a full cocking each time.
Bob
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