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Post by Bear Claw Chris Lappe on Sept 24, 2011 23:06:13 GMT -5
Ran across a 4 5/8th" barreled 45 Colt copy today at a show, had the name "Intercontinental Arms" and "Made in Italy" on it.
Blue barrel & cylinder with CCH frame and brass grip frame (ugh).
"Gut" feeling it's a Uberti, but don't know for sure.
This one "seemed" to be near mint, but the seller had a zip tie around the frame blocking the hammer and trigger, and while I was seriously interested in it, (had the money in hand) he refused to remove it for me to examine the action, unless I bought it first, then I could cut it off, so I passed on it.
Anyone know roughly when there were imported?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2011 10:09:22 GMT -5
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Post by Bear Claw Chris Lappe on Sept 25, 2011 10:30:13 GMT -5
Thanks!
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Post by Frank V on Sept 28, 2011 19:02:34 GMT -5
I would have passed too. Any swapper who won't let you look at the timing & action working, I feel is hiding something. If you cock the SA properly & if it's timed properly, you won't put a turn line on it if that was what he was afraid of.
Frank
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Post by sackpeterson on Sept 28, 2011 20:10:01 GMT -5
If its modestly or even fairly priced its a good to great buy.
ICA sold Dakotas made by Hammerli and Uberti. The fella's here have raved about the Hammerli version. I haven't encountered one personally. I just had one of the Uberti's, it was also an exceptional gun all around. The thing is, it was essentially Uberti's first sixgun platform in the 60's, and it didn't have the goofy hammer block safety that would come shortly after. Fit and finish were superb.
Marked made in Italy should = Uberti with these. ICA started importing revolvers under their private label name 'Dakota' in 1962, petered out in the early 70's. EMF picked up the brand, but they had it made by Armi Jager at first.
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Post by Bear Claw Chris Lappe on Sept 28, 2011 20:25:12 GMT -5
He was firm on $350.00, which I admit, I wasn't sure if that was good or not. Gun was in really nice shape, 98-99%, and if he'd have let me check it over I was ready to buy it, just to get one in my collection of sixguns.
If I run across one again, is that price "OK" or high?
And Sack' your correct, this one I did notice did not have the "swiss safe" on the base pin.
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Post by sackpeterson on Sept 28, 2011 22:06:02 GMT -5
Even aside from the Swiss safe, I think Uberti's since 1971 or so have had that wierd little spring actuated lever on the hammer, the hammer block. That kind of gunks up Uberti's action, and these prior ones are better.
IMO its a buy at $350 if its 98%. Its hard to lose money on it at $350 if you decide you dont like and want to sell. I think you might find it a superior gun to say the current Uberti Cattleman.
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Post by tek4260 on Sept 28, 2011 22:14:15 GMT -5
Not cutting the tie until after you purchased it is a deal killer regardless of what it is.....
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Post by peacemaker on Sept 28, 2011 22:22:59 GMT -5
I saw one in good shape sell last year for $385 last year with one bid in a five day auction.
A second one in lesser shape and in .357 was listed at $325, and at one day left on a seven day auction had no bids. I don't know if that one sold or not, but I suspect not.
I've had two of the Intercontinental Arms Dakotas in my hands and was not impressed with either of them. I have yet to find a Hammerli SA of any model with perfect timing, including the two Virginians I have.
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