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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2011 18:24:16 GMT -5
earlier in the week, i picked up another 44 special blackhawk. when i got it home, i worked the action and it felt as though something was going to break off and lock the action up. i had planned on gutting the gun and starting over with new internals anyway so this was not a big concern, but jo blow off the street would have had problems with said gun. even dry firing the gun make a weak sounding click with the firing pin barely protruding out of its home. once the gun was apart, the back of the hand looked like 40 grit sand paper. it now looks like a mirror. further investigation showed the transfer bar to be wider than it should be. a few licks with a file and some crocus to smooth it out solved that.
if he hasn't seen it already axehandle could confirm that gander mountain in huntsville has a .357 blackhawk in stock that's ears on the grip frame hang over the cylinder frame. i realize the blackhawks are not as precision fitted as a freedom arms or custom, but still these problems should not get out of the factory. anybody else notice any problems as of late with new rugers?
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Post by sixshooter on Mar 18, 2011 20:26:07 GMT -5
Seems to be hit or miss. 2 of the last 7 Blackhawks I've bought went back to the factory. Ruger made good on both but they should've never left the plant.
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Post by crash87 on Mar 18, 2011 22:42:56 GMT -5
Yes, I have a 50th anny 357, that has a funny, subtle scraping sound as it rotates. Just doesn't seem right. None of the others I own have it. Also, my new 44 special has the front sight at a slight angle, front to back, not like it is rotated on the barrel. Grip frame fitting on another one I own, circa 1982, is flush on one side and hangs over about 1/16" on the other. Quality control has always been an issue, not just latley, my opinion of course. CRASH87
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Post by AxeHandle on Mar 19, 2011 9:21:48 GMT -5
I feel for the guys who always have to ask their dealer to order specific guns. In many cases what they see is what they get. I've been lucky to live close to a dealer who maintains an extensive stock and when there are multiples he lets me pick the one I like. While in no way common there have been some pretty recent new gun culls.. Rugers AND S&Ws...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2011 10:11:26 GMT -5
lucky for me, i was planning on gutting the gun and starting over any way but guns like that should not find their way to huntsville with prominent buyers like axehandle lurking around. i know what you mean about the smiths. a while back larry's had a six inch model 57. when i found it i thought finally one of the must haves on my list. working the action felt like it had gravel on the inside. one of those new blued mountain guns was in the same case. its action felt like butter. everyone else must have thought the action was as bad as i did for the price of the longer barreled gun it sat there for a while and they even nocked a hundred or more dollars off it. it stayed there and i bought some more 44 specials and an abilene.
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Post by caryc on Mar 19, 2011 11:47:38 GMT -5
if he hasn't seen it already axehandle could confirm that gander mountain in huntsville has a .357 blackhawk in stock that's ears on the grip frame hang over the cylinder frame. i realize the blackhawks are not as precision fitted as a freedom arms or custom, but still these problems should not get out of the factory. anybody else notice any problems as of late with new rugers? The regular Blackhawks have aluminum grip frames on them. They are not fitted to the guns as steel grip frames are. The first time those grip frames see a cylinder frame is for assembly after they are painted. Again.....you get what you pay for. You want Ruger to start hand fitting all their grip frames.....you'll start paying for it. |
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Post by 2 Dogs on Mar 19, 2011 12:45:32 GMT -5
Im luckier than some I guess. My Flattop 357 was so accurate it stunned me! 3/4 groups at 25 yards!!! My 44 special flattop had almost perfect dimensions and is a good shooter as well..... Still, for the price, a Ruger is TOUGH to beat!
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Post by extex on Mar 19, 2011 12:47:45 GMT -5
Look at my new hunter. I'll be calling Ruger Monday. The cutter was way off when they machined the ring reliefs. It almost takes the fun out of getting a new gun.  Uploaded with ImageShack.us |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2011 19:46:32 GMT -5
caryc, i did not know that the aluminum grip frames were not fitted that way. it makes so much more sense now on that part. i would rather have steel grip frames anyway. the difference in weight to me is not easy to tell, and i lugged my lipsey's 44 special up and down mountains for a 15 mile trek in three days considering how out of shape i am that was alot and the gun was not a burden.
twodogs, my .357 flattop and my lipsey's 44 special are both jewels i wouldn't part with as well. i guess it was just my turn to get a rough one. such is life.
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Post by texagun on Mar 20, 2011 8:30:57 GMT -5
In my quest for a nice New Model Vaquero in .357 Mag I saw new guns with poor fitting gripframes and grips, front sights that were clearly off-center, insufficient barrel-cylinder gap, and poor bluing and polishing and other minor cosmetic issues. I did find a nice one that is a jewel but I would not buy any Ruger by mail order or sight unseen.
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Post by raven5 on Mar 20, 2011 11:39:14 GMT -5
I'll post some pics soon, but I just picked up two of the Bisley Hunter in .45 Colt. One from Alabama and one from Michigan. They came straight from Lipsey, to the shops, to me. Can't say I'm impressed that much. Love the models, and since I haven't had a chance to shoot them they might shoot like a dream. However, they both look, well I don't want to say 'rough' but, uh, yeah... Grips don't fit well at all, not even for mass production standards. Some of the rollmarks are very uneven, and scuffs galore. Scuffs might not be Ruger's fault, maybe somewhere in between, so I won't harp on that one. The grip frame doesn't line up well at all, either. Can't tell you how I've been wanting these guns, and I'm quite a bit let down. Oh well, at least the barrel markings are on the bottom....   |
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Post by jayhawker on Mar 20, 2011 12:27:32 GMT -5
Rugers new black plastic grips, such as on the New Vaquero. are purposely slightly undersize and they are NOT fitted to individual guns. Ruger publicised this fact when they quit fitting individual grips. It was felt that slightly undersize is preferable to grips that are to big.
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Post by goodtime on Mar 20, 2011 17:04:07 GMT -5
I have a Blackhawk from the early '80s with the same grip-frame-horns-hanging-over-the-frame problem. It never really bugged me until I recently picked up, sight unseen, a 50th anniversary 357 that looks and feels smooth as silk. By comparison, the look and feel of the older piece is lacking. The 50th anniversary feels (operates) like a much more expensive revolver. I guess Ruger might have put a bit of care into them because of their being a special edition
I have another 2009 Blackhawk in 357 that is not quite as nice as the 50th anniv. model, bit is still very smooth and tight. I also have a super in blue, 4 5/8' and its function is every bit as nice as my 50th anniv. 357. Rounding out my collection of Blackhawks is a convertible blue 5.5' which is a good gun, but feels and performs like what it is, nothing more nothing less.
I guess it is hit or miss to some degree, as others pointed out.
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