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Post by engineguy on Jul 24, 2010 14:47:04 GMT -5
Hello sa forums! Derek here from Oregon.
I finally scratched a long time itch and bought myself a cowboy six gun, its an Uberti cattlemen in 357mag and 4-3/4 barrel.
I'm not sure what year it is, it's slightly used but in almost as new condition, cylinder lock up is very good, end play is. 004, no hammer play
I got it for 250$ and I'm happy with most everything but two things, 1 the firing pin has play in it, quite a bit so that's my big concern and I didn't notice that before purchase.
second the rod that holds the cylinder in is very tight to pull out, can't pull it by hand and my concern after pulling it and cleaning/lubing it with no change makes me wonder if there is either a bent rod or something wrong with the cylinder? I wanted to see what you guys thought, ty
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Post by robl on Jul 24, 2010 15:31:54 GMT -5
Welcome.
Have you shot it yet?
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Post by engineguy on Jul 24, 2010 17:52:24 GMT -5
Thanks! No I have not fired it yet, tomorrow morning a bunch of us are going out so thats when I'll try her out  |
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Post by taffin on Jul 24, 2010 19:06:06 GMT -5
Hello sa forums! Derek here from Oregon. I finally scratched a long time itch and bought myself a cowboy six gun, its an Uberti cattlemen in 357mag and 4-3/4 barrel. I'm not sure what year it is, it's slightly used but in almost as new condition, cylinder lock up is very good, end play is. 004, no hammer play I got it for 250$ and I'm happy with most everything but two things, 1 the firing pin has play in it, quite a bit so that's my big concern and I didn't notice that before purchase. second the rod that holds the cylinder in is very tight to pull out, can't pull it by hand and my concern after pulling it and cleaning/lubing it with no change makes me wonder if there is either a bent rod or something wrong with the cylinder? I wanted to see what you guys thought, ty $250 IS A GOOD PRICE; THE FIRING PIN IS SUPPOSED TO BE THAT WAY; AND A TIGHT BASE PIN IS MUCH BETTER THAN A LOOSE ONE THAT MOVES FORWARD WHEN YOU SHOOT. |
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Post by sackpeterson on Jul 24, 2010 19:46:21 GMT -5
Hammer pin is supposed to be that way.
No harm in base pins being snug, but I like to be able to get them out with some ease. I have found the italian guns with the two notches to be somewhat clumsy that way. I have typically replaced these with traditional Colt pins. If they're still snug, I degrease them, and maybe spin them in in a drill with very fine sandpaper around them.
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Post by robl on Jul 24, 2010 20:45:59 GMT -5
If your not happy with that base pin, Belt Mountian is the way to go.
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Post by engineguy on Jul 24, 2010 21:11:40 GMT -5
Oh excellent! That brings me some comfort!, I plan on getting in to some cas and or quick draw with this! What are some things I should do to make this gun Last? oh and where is good place to get some nice grips, I really like the ivory look ,thanks! You all have been great!
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Post by taffin on Jul 24, 2010 22:10:59 GMT -5
I plan on getting in to some cas and or quick draw with this!
QUICK DRAW WITH A SINGLE ACTION AND LIVE AMMO IS FOR EXPERTS. YOU ARE GETTING CARRIED AWAY WITH YOUR FIRST SA!!!!
CAS REQUIRES TWO SIXGUNS, A LEVERGUN, A SHOTGUN, AND PROPER CLOTHING.
What are some things I should do to make this gun Last?
DON'T QUICK DRAW IT!
IF THE ACTION NEEDS SMOOTHING CHECK WITH A COMPETENT GUNSMITH. A COMPLETE TUNING WILL COST CLOSE TO WHAT YOU PAID FOR IT.
oh and where is good place to get some nice grips, I really like the ivory look ,thanks! You all have been great! [/quote]
THERE ARE DOZENS OF GRIP MAKERS OUT THERE. IVORY WILL COST $500-$600; TRU-IVORY FOR THE "LOOK" WILL RUN ABOUT $150.
RELAX AND SPEND SOME TIME ACTUALLY SHOOTING THIS .357 FOR AWHILE.
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Post by robl on Jul 25, 2010 0:07:23 GMT -5
Practice shooting some tight groups with it.
JT is right about what is need to compete in cas BUT, Bring it out to a CAS match. If it is anything like the 2 clubs I used to shoot with you will have spare guns pressed upon you to get you through the match.
If you shoot a lot of .38 specials in it, clean the chambers well before you start shooting .357s.
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Post by J Miller on Jul 25, 2010 9:24:10 GMT -5
Derek, To Date your Uberti Cattleman look for a small rectangle on the side of the cylinder frame. There will be two letters in it. Those are the date code. Go here to find the year that corresponds to the code: store.bluebookinc.com/Info/PDF/POWDER/MBPProofmarks.pdfI have an older Uberti Cattleman and it's a very enjoyable gun to shoot, but no way in the world would I use it for quick draw or CAS. It would be junk in short order. It's just not tuned for that. Belt Mountain base pins are generally larger than stock, so if your base pin is already on the tight side a B.M. pin will only exacerbate the problem. My suggestion is to remove the base pin latch assembly and the base pin and make sure there are no burrs on the cylinder frame, the latch or the grove in the pin. Then just leave it alone. As Taffin said a tight pin is much better than one that pops out when you shoot the gun. If you want it tuned here is a gunsmith who specializes in tuning Uberti and foreign single actions for use in cas: Steve Young at; www.stevesgunz.com/ If you just want to buy parts, call VTI at: www.vtigunparts.com/Joe |
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Post by Mountaineer on Jul 25, 2010 10:48:32 GMT -5
Congratulations on your purchase, Derek. You've received some very good advice in this thread from some very knowledgable shooters. Welcome to the group.
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Post by engineguy on Jul 25, 2010 15:14:43 GMT -5
I appreciate the advice!
I went out and put aprox 100 rounds through it and man what a fun and enjoyable piece to shoot and although its no where near my 460xvr it does have a little poop to it and after a few cylinders of ammunition I was getting consistent 3.5-5" groups at 15 yards with it using remington 125grn jsp's overall I couldn't be happier!
I only wish I picked one up earlier!
Btw the base pin loosened up just a smidgen, enough to disassemble by hand.
oh and i will not be doing any quick draw with live ammo LOL i really like both of my feet! ,I just want to keep shooting it and having fun!
Also ty for the info on grips and base pin.
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Post by 45colt on Jul 25, 2010 15:37:57 GMT -5
I appreciate the advice! I went out and put aprox 100 rounds through it and man what a fun and enjoyable piece to shoot and although its no where near my 460xvr it does have a little poop to it and after a few cylinders of ammunition I was getting consistent 3.5-5" groups at 15 yards with it using remington 125grn jsp's overall I couldn't be happier! I only wish I picked one up earlier! Btw the base pin loosened up just a smidgen, enough to disassemble by hand. oh and i will not be doing any quick draw with live ammo LOL i really like both of my feet! ,I just want to keep shooting it and having fun! Also ty for the info on grips and base pin. Welcome. Glad to read that you are one happy camper with the Uberti. I have one too,only in 45 Colt.It is the black matte finish. I see one thing that wasn't covered : dry firing. Please use "snap-caps" or empty fired cases for dry firing. You enjoy that Cattleman. As long as you treat it good,it will treat you good. |
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Post by engineguy on Jul 25, 2010 15:43:14 GMT -5
Oh and my date code in a small box underneath the frame in front of the trigger guard is BT, my pc has a hard time with pdf files if you have a minute could you check for me? Thanks
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Post by engineguy on Jul 25, 2010 16:14:58 GMT -5
Ok, never mind, I found it's a 1978, this saa looks almost like nobody ever shot it before me!
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