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Post by bigbrowndog on Oct 7, 2024 20:48:26 GMT -5
I spent the day floating the Snake River, and although it wasn’t needed or expected to be needed. I carried my Bowen SRH 500L in a crossdraw holster and included my lanyard, for accidental dropping more than anything. What I noticed was that when worn under my insulated vest, it was needed for warmth most of the day. This Texas boy got cold in the shade and the breeze with 60* midday temps. Anyway, the lanyard was worn over my head and left shoulder, draped down on the right side and over to the crossdraw Rybka holster. What I found was that the lanyard would migrate due to normal movement during the day, over to my left shoulder and drop off the shoulder. several times I had to adjust the lanyard by pulling it under my vest over to the right side in order to keep the lanyard up against my next on the left side. Whether this would happen in a strong side carry I don’t know, tomorrow I will use my Back Country leather chest rig under my vest and see how that works. My biggest concern is discretion, I don’t want every boater, or person we meet to know I’m carrying. Granted I could carry a true concealed carry gun and no one would be the wiser. However I wanted to see if a true back country gun could be carried discreetly and which method would, work best. So tomorrow is chest rig under vest and the next day will be Strongside carry with lanyard.
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Post by gregs on Oct 7, 2024 21:39:54 GMT -5
When we wore lanyards in the military we used the large black safety pins that came with the 5.56 bandoliers.
We would put the strong arm sleeve through the lanyard loop, then pin it to where the camaflage blouse shoulder area met the collar and pin it. It would keep the lanyard from floating around and if you hand to go hands on and someone grabbed it, it wouldn't be around your neck.
If unclear, I can text a pic. Greg
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Post by bula on Oct 8, 2024 5:58:59 GMT -5
These are good things to know, learn. What works, and what doesn't, takes field time tries. Thank You for sharing.
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Post by 45MAN on Oct 8, 2024 8:18:49 GMT -5
WAS LOOKING AT 3 OLDER LARGE FRAME 45 CAL. REVOLVERS YESTERDAY: 1) A 1906 COLT NEW SERVICE IN 45 COLT THAT BELONGED TO GENERAL TOMAS URBINA, ONE OF PANCHO VILLA's WELL KNOWN GENERALS, IT HAD HAD A LANYARD RING BUT IT WAS MISSING; 2) A U.S. ARMY MODEL OF 1909 COLT NEW SERVICE IN 45 COLT STILL WEARING ITS FACTORY LANYARD RING; and 3) A S&W 1937 BRAZILIAN NAVY 45 ACP REVOLVER STILL WEARING ITS FACTORY LANYARD RING. SEEMINGLY FACTORY LANYARD RINGS ON HANDGUNS, ESPECIALLY ON DOUBLE ACTION REVOLVERS, WERE COMMON UP TO AROUND THRU WWII BUT NOW ARE SEEMINGLY UNHEARD OF.
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Post by bigbrowndog on Oct 8, 2024 8:27:02 GMT -5
It makes sense that WWI and II era soldiers would run the lanyard through the weak side shoulder epaulet
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Post by northerngos on Oct 8, 2024 11:07:21 GMT -5
I have a two part lanyard that seems to generally work well for hunting. When wearing a chest holster and bino harness I clip am arms length lanyard to the strong side shoulder strap up pretty high. This lets the revolver hang about where I can reach it without issue. I double up the cord into an elastic keeper to keep it out of the way. When no bino harness I clip the short lanyard to the same position on a webbing loop that goes over one shoulder and hangs down by my weak side hip. This webbing can be hooked to my belt to keep it from rotating. Neither setup allows for graceful concealed carry, so I’m all ears here. Oh and I loop a piece of greased kangaroo hide around the base of the lanyard or thread it through the post and wrap the entire ring to eliminate noise.
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Post by gunsbam45 on Oct 8, 2024 21:06:38 GMT -5
I've been experimenting with using lanyards recently, and I think a perfect setup is unlikely. I can remember back when I had a mule, being down crawling thru thick stuff then having the mule follow me through. I remember situations like that going through my mind when thinking about using them and laughing about the entangled mess that would've been. I carry so much already if I go out on foot for the day that adding more is just a pain. But, I'm trying different setups to see what works best, simply because I don't want to have a Bowen gun taking a nasty spill if I can help it. It's tough to find a great setup with a backpack, binocular harness and a coyote rifle slung over me already. Hopefully this thread will help uncover a magic solution
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Post by northerngos on Oct 8, 2024 22:07:37 GMT -5
I've been experimenting with using lanyards recently, and I think a perfect setup is unlikely. I can remember back when I had a mule, being down crawling thru thick stuff then having the mule follow me through. I remember situations like that going through my mind when thinking about using them and laughing about the entangled mess that would've been. I carry so much already if I go out on foot for the day that adding more is just a pain. But, I'm trying different setups to see what works best, simply because I don't want to have a Bowen gun taking a nasty spill if I can help it. It's tough to find a great setup with a backpack, binocular harness and a coyote rifle slung over me already. Hopefully this thread will help uncover a magic solution The thought of looking down at an empty holster strikes terror into my heart!
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Post by bigbrowndog on Oct 10, 2024 17:40:27 GMT -5
Strongside carry with the lanyard was trouble free, even with the same vest being worn. It got handy having the revo on the float trip as we got trapped inside a little lagoon by a cow moose. That slipped in behind us as we chased trout, We hoped she would get back in the underbrush as we got closer but she was unfazed by our approach. So as we got to within 50 yards I kept the 500L in hand. She let us slip by her without incident, but as soon as we got past her she jerked her head up and cocked her ears forward towards the cover and took off stomping her feet and now ears laid back. It seemed she was concerned for something in the cover that we couldn’t see. We figured a bull or possibly yearling calf, but we didn’t find out. By that time we were in the main channel and drifting away in deep water.
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Post by bigbrowndog on Oct 10, 2024 18:18:45 GMT -5
With a good active restraint that is not a snap, I feel pretty confident that the gun will be there when I need it, or if a take a tumble. A hammer loop, hammer strap or a strap with a Sam Browne stud and slot. Takes some active means to remove it, other than a hammer loop possibly getting thin and worn and then break I double there would be any issue, but never say never. The day I wore my chest rig it stayed under my vest and was comfortable and it uses a stud and slot retention strap. Plus the stud and slot is virtually silent to remove in a shooting situation.
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Post by gregs on Oct 11, 2024 10:23:03 GMT -5
I double up the cord into an elastic keeper to keep it out of the way. When no bino harness I clip the short lanyard to the same position on a webbing loop that goes over one shoulder and hangs down by my weak side hip. This webbing can be hooked to my belt to keep it from rotating. Neither setup allows for graceful concealed carry, so I’m all ears here. Oh and I loop a piece of greased kangaroo hide around the base of the lanyard or thread it through the post and wrap the entire ring to eliminate noise. I like the idea of double or tripling up the lanyard and rubber banding it to gather the slack up. I don't know how many times I had a comeback here moment with a lanyard in the field, particularly at night. My idea of a lanyard is not so much as have a gun get a ding on it during a hunting trip, to me while regrettable it is a story. It is more about permanently loosing the it. Story Time: About 25 years ago I was purchasing quite a few adult beverages in an establishment (dive bar) on the outskirts of Fairbanks, AK. Being new to Alaska I met a rough n tumble gal who had moved to Alaska from the midwest about 5 years earlier. She had a love of running dogs so she had a small parcel of land outside of Fairbanks proper where she had a rustic 'Cabin' and enough property to house her pack of sled dogs. Now, when you here the term cabin in the lower 48, you think of a small kit build in the Catskills or Smokey Mountains used as a summer retreat. No, we talking dirt floor outhouse no running water mecca here. To say the least, this woman lived to take care of these animals so she could pursue dog sledding. She told me about an accident she had while sledding. She was breaking trail after the first couple of snow storms, the team was still getting together and she had a massive wipeout into some trees. When she regained consciousness, the sled had rolled on it's side and been drug about 25 yards. She righted the sled and started putting everything back together and noticed that her 44 mag Redhawk wasn't in the holster attached to the uprights for the sled handles. She looked for a few minutes but it was getting dark out and headed back home. She looked for that gun the following three days but by then, the snow was so trapped down that it would be impossible to find. She wrote it off until breakup. Well time passed breakup came and her life got busy one thing after next. It was early summer and she decided to looking for the gun again. She walked down the trail to where she dumped the sled and low and behold, someone else had found her gun and nailed it up on a tree at eye level. During my 'Lanyard Rabbit Hole' learning phase, I cut my lace alittle short and have a 36" lanyard but it is to short for a loop to go over the shoulder unless your a midget. I'm thinking of a button on the end to put into a chest pocket button hole for a chest rig then just tuck the extra lanyard inside the flannel shirt to keep it from snagging stuff. I generally like soft connections to the handgun myself. I like 2-4mm kernmantel style cord though the lanyard (quiet). Experimented with some 250lbs Salem water ball bearing swivel snaps too. The lanyard idea I really like is Trappers indiscrete lanyard slot and pin on his 500, ala 1911 main spring housing style. Nothing added to the outside lines and discrete yet functional.
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