Aggie01
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Post by Aggie01 on May 28, 2009 13:17:08 GMT -5
What was the reason behind the recall on the convertable Bearcats? I know Mr. Quinn has had one made rather recently. Is the stock barrel compatible with 22 mag or does it need to be replaced? I have a sad bearcat project gun (See Beaters! thread), and a cylinder has come up on GB. www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=129928016It's going to be my nephew's first SA, (He's 1 now), so I am absolutely commited to retaining it as a .22 lr, but was wondering about adding a mag cylinder as an option.
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Post by hoss on May 28, 2009 13:37:59 GMT -5
I'm rather curious about that my self... My Bear-kit could always do with a second cylinder, or perhaps just a rechambering of the original to 22 mag....
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Post by the priest on May 28, 2009 14:00:29 GMT -5
it was a timing issue IIRC.
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Post by nobearsyet on May 28, 2009 17:10:02 GMT -5
SO then if someone were to have a cylinder made, or fitted then it wouldn't be such a nisuue would it?
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Post by Boge Quinn on May 28, 2009 17:31:53 GMT -5
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Post by church on May 28, 2009 17:32:19 GMT -5
This has been done:
Owner loses the Bearcat cylinder. It's not in the sock drawer where you thought it was.
Gun is sent to Ruger for replacement.
Gun returns, freshly recylinderized.
Lo and behold, the missing cylinder is found right there in the sock drawer where you really thought it was.
How ever did I overlook that? This is a puzzler.
The extra cylinder is rechambered to .22WRFM
All this is altogether sans factory imprimatur, of course.
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Post by the priest on May 28, 2009 18:54:08 GMT -5
SO then if someone were to have a cylinder made, or fitted then it wouldn't be such a nisuue would it? correct. the revolver can handle the ctg just fine,....if it's timed correctly. But then that's true of most revolvers regardless of the cartridge.
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Post by carl on May 29, 2009 9:10:02 GMT -5
The "timing issue" is a myth. The issue was with the shooter. Fanning a New Bearcat fitted with it's .22 mag. cylinder can result in the rim-fire cartridges being "fired" prior to reaching the "battery" position. This permits a copper jacketed bullet to strike the end of the barrel instead of entering the forcing cone. Lots of dangerous "bullet splatter", which included copper jacket fragments, was the result. Ruger recalled the Magnum cylinders in an effort to protect the idiots from themselves least they end up in Court. Approximately 500 of the 1,000 shipped New Bearcat Convertible .22 magnum cylinders were returned to Ruger for a $40 rebate. We collectors just grinned. I ended up with three convertibles with consecutive serial numbers. Will I shoot them? Nah! Carl
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Post by nobearsyet on May 29, 2009 11:13:45 GMT -5
Ahhhhh, come on now, there ain't no point in owning a gun you won't shoot, maybe ship them off to us, we'll shoot them all right...
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Post by carl on May 29, 2009 13:30:52 GMT -5
Ahhhhh, come on now, there ain't no point in owning a gun you won't shoot, maybe ship them off to us, we'll shoot them all right... I paid $300 apiece for my first two and twice that for the third. Current value is $1,150 per gun plus the value of one other for the fact that they are all consecutive and NIB. I'll stick with my plan, thanks. Carl
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Post by Boge Quinn on May 29, 2009 14:29:20 GMT -5
The "timing issue" is a myth. The issue was with the shooter. Fanning a New Bearcat fitted with it's .22 mag. cylinder can result in the rim-fire cartridges being "fired" prior to reaching the "battery" position. This permits a copper jacketed bullet to strike the end of the barrel instead of entering the forcing cone. Lots of dangerous "bullet splatter", which included copper jacket fragments, was the result. Ruger recalled the Magnum cylinders in an effort to protect the idiots from themselves least they end up in Court. Approximately 500 of the 1,000 shipped New Bearcat Convertible .22 magnum cylinders were returned to Ruger for a $40 rebate. We collectors just grinned. I ended up with three convertibles with consecutive serial numbers. Will I shoot them? Nah! Carl Same deal with the SR9 and LCP recalls - no problem that proper gun handling wouldn't solve! Gotta satisfy the legal types, though. Carl, if I could afford one of those, I'd dern sure shoot it! But with NIB consecutive S/Ns, no I wouldn't - I'd sell 'em to a collector pal. IF I had one, that is - but if a frog had wings........... ;D
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Post by carl on May 30, 2009 14:28:49 GMT -5
Boge, The .22 mag. doesn't "do a thing" for me. That's why I have .32's! My "shooter" is a "K" prefixed Old Model... Carl
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Post by nonpcnrarn on May 30, 2009 21:39:33 GMT -5
Boge, The .22 mag. doesn't "do a thing" for me. That's why I have .32's! My "shooter" is a "K" prefixed Old Model... Carl I wonder how fast the 60gr 22 subsonic loads from the little Bearcat goes? I think Paco Kelly's ACU'RZR would work well on these bullets to put a cup point or hollow point on them for a small game load that won't destroy a lot of meat. I also think a 60 gr cup point would be a better SD stopper than a 25 acp RN.
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Post by nobearsyet on May 30, 2009 21:43:52 GMT -5
I don't know, a 22 is still a very small frontal area
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Post by carl on May 31, 2009 10:31:57 GMT -5
FWIW, I've used Accurized bulk packed .22 LR ammo for years to shoot Marmots/Rockchucks. One can easily hear the "slap" of that bullet when it contacts one of those vermin. (I use the slightly cupped "flat point" punch.) The .22 LR gave me many, many one shot stops.
I was using a 6-1/2" or 9-1/2" Single-Six, though.
Carl
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