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Post by parallaxbill on Jul 25, 2024 12:56:15 GMT -5
I found today a very early 7.5" New Model 45 Colt Blackhawk with its 45acp cylinder. Condition is easily 98%. My question is, when did Ruger stop recessing the cylinders? Both of the cylinders are recessed on this Blackhawk.
Serial number is 46-085**
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Post by kings6 on Jul 25, 2024 13:11:32 GMT -5
Some early NM guns had recessed cylinders as they made the transition so I’m not surprised your early NM has recessed cylinders.
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Post by parallaxbill on Jul 25, 2024 14:21:01 GMT -5
Thanks.
I haven't bought it yet, but I'll try negotiating a decent price on it tomorrow. In my experience, the very early Blackhawks had better fit and finish before the ugly lawyer script Blackhawks were produced. As a dedicated old model collector and shooter, the only things that interest me in this one are the recessed cylinders and very fine condition. Unfortunately, there is no box or paperwork.
I measured the cylinder throats on both cylinders at .455" with a set of dial calipers that the shop let me use.
I will try to buy it.
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bamagreg
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Post by bamagreg on Jul 25, 2024 14:23:33 GMT -5
I found today a very early 7.5" New Model 45 Colt Blackhawk with its 45acp cylinder. Condition is easily 98%. My question is, when did Ruger stop recessing the cylinders? Both of the cylinders are recessed on this Blackhawk. Serial number is 46-085** Probably still has the tight chamber throats of the old models too. I had a mid-70's one (non-recessed) that had throats measuring .455" |
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Post by tj3006 on Jul 26, 2024 4:43:53 GMT -5
Am I missing something?
Recessed chambers on a 45ACP Cyl?
No Rim I don't understand?
...tj
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Post by Encore64 on Jul 26, 2024 4:50:30 GMT -5
Not much to understand. The cylinder comes all the way back to the rear cylinder window.
Rimmed or rimless, the term is applicable. Very desirable gun...
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Post by needsmostuff on Jul 26, 2024 8:39:27 GMT -5
If the ACP cylinder is indeed recessed for a rim, I wonder if it could have been cut for 45AR?
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Post by bobwright on Jul 26, 2024 9:07:27 GMT -5
Am I missing something? Recessed chambers on a 45ACP Cyl? No Rim I don't understand? ...tj Some folks have had the ACP cylinders recessed to allow use of Auto Rim cartrides. Otherwise, I, like you, am puzzled. Bob Wright |
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Post by bobwright on Jul 26, 2024 9:51:37 GMT -5
Not much to understand. The cylinder comes all the way back to the rear cylinder window. Rimmed or rimless, the term is applicable. Very desirable gun... Even if the cylinder were slam up tight against the standing breech, tne .45 Auto would not require counterboring. Only if milled for the .45 AR ............ Bob Wright |
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Post by Encore64 on Jul 26, 2024 9:58:29 GMT -5
Not much to understand. The cylinder comes all the way back to the rear cylinder window. Rimmed or rimless, the term is applicable. Very desirable gun... Even if the cylinder were slam up tight against the standing breech, tne .45 Auto would not require counterboring. Only if milled for the .45 AR ............ Bob Wright I don't suppose any modern brass requires counterboring. But, I still prefer it when available. Freedom Arms, BFRs and a few others come this way. I did have my Ruger 45 ACP Cylinder cut for 45 Auto Rim... |
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Post by contender on Jul 26, 2024 10:16:06 GMT -5
To answer the OP about when the recessed cylinders were used.
The Old style of OM cylinders with the recessed chambers,, (firing pin groove type,) in the convertibles have been found between 46-05874 to 46-11384.
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Post by parallaxbill on Jul 26, 2024 12:16:32 GMT -5
Thanks guys! I bought it this morning.
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Post by bigmuddy on Jul 26, 2024 13:57:33 GMT -5
I have 46-1539 with a counter sunk cylinder but it’s not a convertible.
My 7 1/2” Pre Warning convertible doesn’t have the counter sunk cylinder but it’s later. 46-31010. Terrific revolver! I bet yours will be too.
Dan
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