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Post by bigbore5 on Jun 19, 2024 19:55:44 GMT -5
I do both regular and pc and gas check on my 357 mag and max loads. Let's me run a soft hp at full velocity with no leading. Many of the other high pressure handgun loads will get pc and lube. Standard pressure gets pc only for most, but there are a couple guns that just don't like it. Those get my standard LBT soft blue lube.
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Post by leftysixgun on Jun 19, 2024 20:07:12 GMT -5
I’m still reluctant to powder coat. I was given some PCed bullets to try. I shot them but it heated the barrel up SUPER FAST and caked my barrel with the powder coat stuff. It took a copper Chore Boy to scrub out the barrel.
But I’m still curious about PC bullets
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Post by 45MAN on Jun 19, 2024 20:49:09 GMT -5
I’m still reluctant to powder coat. I was given some PCed bullets to try. I shot them but it heated the barrel up SUPER FAST and caked my barrel with the powder coat stuff. It took a copper Chore Boy to scrub out the barrel. But I’m still curious about PC bullets THE PC'ed BULLETS I HAVE USED DO NEITHER, I WONDER ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE PC'ing ON THE BULLETS YOU TRIED AND/OR THE MV YOU WERE PUSHING 'em AT. |
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Post by 38 WCF on Jun 19, 2024 22:47:50 GMT -5
When I tried PC the first time I could not sell my lube a matic fast enough. Shake and bake baby is the way I do it. All of my guns are more accurate with PC bullets. No question about it. So easy and simple compared to the ancient method of lubing the bullet with sticky, smoky, crappy stuff. Come on Guy's, enter the 21st  century and give it a try. Shake and Bake forever. |
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Post by Randominator on Jun 20, 2024 5:39:54 GMT -5
I’m still reluctant to powder coat. I was given some PCed bullets to try. I shot them but it heated the barrel up SUPER FAST and caked my barrel with the powder coat stuff. It took a copper Chore Boy to scrub out the barrel. But I’m still curious about PC bullets That doesn't sound like powder coat. I'm curious as to what the bullets were actually coated with. I can't see powder coated bullets having anything to do with barrel heat. |
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Post by leftysixgun on Jun 20, 2024 7:44:27 GMT -5
I’m still reluctant to powder coat. I was given some PCed bullets to try. I shot them but it heated the barrel up SUPER FAST and caked my barrel with the powder coat stuff. It took a copper Chore Boy to scrub out the barrel. But I’m still curious about PC bullets THE PC'ed BULLETS I HAVE USED DO NEITHER, I WONDER ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE PC'ing ON THE BULLETS YOU TRIED AND/OR THE MV YOU WERE PUSHING 'em AT. The velocity wasn’t anything HOT, right around the 1050fps area. |
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Post by leftysixgun on Jun 20, 2024 7:45:23 GMT -5
I’m still reluctant to powder coat. I was given some PCed bullets to try. I shot them but it heated the barrel up SUPER FAST and caked my barrel with the powder coat stuff. It took a copper Chore Boy to scrub out the barrel. But I’m still curious about PC bullets That doesn't sound like powder coat. I'm curious as to what the bullets were actually coated with. I can't see powder coated bullets having anything to do with barrel heat. I’d like to know what he used too! |
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Post by leftysixgun on Jun 20, 2024 7:46:25 GMT -5
So tell us, where do you get the powder coat stuff?
Did you have re-tune the loads to the gun?
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Post by Randominator on Jun 20, 2024 8:34:28 GMT -5
So tell us, where do you get the powder coat stuff? Did you have re-tune the loads to the gun? The three main brands I use are Eastwood, AkzoNobel, and Sherwin-Williams. It's been over 10 years since I have used traditional lube, so there is nothing to re-tune. The last bullet that I converted from traditional lube to coated was a 190 grain LFNGC that I use in my 10mm. I didn't have to do anything different with the load when I switched to powder paint, I just have a lot cleaner barrel now. |
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Post by leftysixgun on Jun 20, 2024 8:43:14 GMT -5
Alright then, I’ll step into the 21st Century then and try it!
What sort of container do I need for the shaking portion?
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Post by 38 WCF on Jun 20, 2024 9:18:56 GMT -5
Alright then, I’ll step into the 21st Century then and try it! What sort of container do I need for the shaking portion? I use two plastic drink pitchers and a small mesh sifter. Put a handful of bullets in one with about a 1/2 of PC powder in the bottom of one pitcher with a double handful of bullets. Shake it nicely for about 30-40 seconds and when the bullets appear fully coated hold the sifter over the second pitcher and pour the first into the second. The powdered paint will sift thru the bullets into the second pitcher. Repeat the process from one to the other until all your bullets are nicely coated. Have your bakeing pan ready with a piece of parchment paper on it and just dump the coated bullets onto it and shake back and forth to level them. Then, into your small oven at about 300+ degrees for about 20-25 minutes. Let cool overnight then size with a LEE push through sizer. That's all there is to it and you will be amazed at your wonderful new hobby. |
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Post by Cholla on Jun 20, 2024 9:40:56 GMT -5
Alright then, I’ll step into the 21st Century then and try it! What sort of container do I need for the shaking portion? I use two plastic drink pitchers and a small mesh sifter. Put a handful of bullets in one with about a 1/2 of PC powder in the bottom of one pitcher with a double handful of bullets. Shake it nicely for about 30-40 seconds and when the bullets appear fully coated hold the sifter over the second pitcher and pour the first into the second. The powdered paint will sift thru the bullets into the second pitcher. Repeat the process from one to the other until all your bullets are nicely coated. Have your bakeing pan ready with a piece of parchment paper on it and just dump the coated bullets onto it and shake back and forth to level them. Then, into your small oven at about 300+ degrees for about 20-25 minutes. Let cool overnight then size with a LEE push through sizer. That's all there is to it and you will be amazed at your wonderful new hobby. So you're saying you just dump the bullets on their sides on the sheet of parchment paper? Unless I'm mistaken this will leave flat spots on the sides of the bullets which of course will affect concentricity which will in turn affect accuracy. Right? |
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Post by Randominator on Jun 20, 2024 9:49:34 GMT -5
I use two plastic drink pitchers and a small mesh sifter. Put a handful of bullets in one with about a 1/2 of PC powder in the bottom of one pitcher with a double handful of bullets. Shake it nicely for about 30-40 seconds and when the bullets appear fully coated hold the sifter over the second pitcher and pour the first into the second. The powdered paint will sift thru the bullets into the second pitcher. Repeat the process from one to the other until all your bullets are nicely coated. Have your bakeing pan ready with a piece of parchment paper on it and just dump the coated bullets onto it and shake back and forth to level them. Then, into your small oven at about 300+ degrees for about 20-25 minutes. Let cool overnight then size with a LEE push through sizer. That's all there is to it and you will be amazed at your wonderful new hobby. So you're saying you just dump the bullets on their sides on the sheet of parchment paper? Unless I'm mistaken this will leave flat spots on the sides of the bullets which of course will affect concentricity which will in turn affect accuracy. Right? I use silicon ice cube trays and set my bullets on their base.  |
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Post by contender on Jun 20, 2024 10:09:24 GMT -5
For the shake & bake method,, a simple plastic container like a butter tub or a whip cream tub with a lid works just fine. When I used them, I actually put 2 tubs together & just one lid. More stable. As noted,, I'd dump in bullets,, a teaspoon of powder,, and lid it,, & shake for 1-2 minutes. Using a clean plastic pan, and a clean plastic colander, I dump the bullets & powder into the colander that's sitting in the pan.
Shake the bullets off removing the excess.
I dump them onto a non-sick aluminum foil covered baking pan. I gently shake them to make one level layer of bullets.
Bake.
No,, you don't get "flat spots" or anything. Unless you don't get all the excess powder off the bullets.
Now,, I've advanced in my powder coating a bit. Now,, I have a few spare vibrating tumblers. I dump the powder & bullets in them to do the shaking. Everything else is the same.
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Post by Cholla on Jun 20, 2024 10:15:45 GMT -5
I'm just trying to figure out how one can not get flat spots on the bullets if when the powder "melts", for lack of a better term, the bullets are laying on their sides, on a flat surface.
I've PC-ed two batches so far, one on foil and one on parchment paper, and in both cases the bullets stuck to the foil and paper and had to be peeled off.
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century and give it a try. Shake and Bake forever.
