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Post by silcott on May 9, 2024 20:10:34 GMT -5
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Post by Encore64 on May 9, 2024 20:21:07 GMT -5
Looks like a mighty fine choice. All these smallish cartridges intrigue me.
All of the mentioned trace their history back to the 220 Russian.
Necking to different bullet diameters, improving to different tapers, neck lengths and shoulder angles have resulted in some mighty fine "inventions."
I've still got Ruger #1s in 7.62x39 and 22 PPC which still work great. I'm sure all the new efforts do too.
The 22 ARC is very interesting. But, the 224 Valkyrie is probably a better choice for a TC Project...
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Post by bigbrowndog on May 9, 2024 20:53:31 GMT -5
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Post by gemihur on May 17, 2024 17:01:26 GMT -5
The Grendel is disallowed for custom contender barrels by MGM and only available as G2 Thank God Coyote Guns and Accessories didn't feel that way back when they made mine shown here as I carved on it's new forearm  |
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Post by jreidthompson1 on May 21, 2024 17:39:05 GMT -5
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Post by Encore64 on May 21, 2024 18:02:32 GMT -5
The Grendel is disallowed for custom contender barrels by MGM and only available as G2 Thank God Coyote Guns and Accessories didn't feel that way back when they made mine shown here as I carved on it's new forearm My Contender Pistol Barrel was built by MGM before it was restricted to the G2 Only Lug. EABCO still offers the 264 LBC in standard Contender Configuration. Same cartridge with tighter neck dimension tolerances... |
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Post by revolvercranker on May 21, 2024 18:44:12 GMT -5
The Grendel is disallowed for custom contender barrels by MGM and only available as G2 Thank God Coyote Guns and Accessories didn't feel that way back when they made mine shown here as I carved on it's new forearm My Contender Pistol Barrel was built by MGM before it was restricted to the G2 Only Lug. EABCO still offers the 264 LBC in standard Contender Configuration. Same cartridge with tighter neck dimension tolerances... It's not that the 264 LBC has a tighter neck dimension, it's a different throat dimension. Since I've been into the 6.5 Grendel since it's conception you probably aren't aware of the first chambers in the very first company that made the first barrels for 6.5 Grendel for Alexander arms. There were two neck dimensions. One was .300 and the tight one was .295. The .295 one is the one that I had on my first Grendel, which by the way was given to me free by Arne Brennen. Also for you information the original throat on the first 6.5 Grendels had a compound angle forcing cone. The real story of why Lex Baur quick making the 6.5 Grendel and came out with his .265 LBC. Les had a contract to make 6.5 Grendels for Alexander Arms. Alexander arms was suppose to suppy him with the bolts which he kind of did. What I meant by that, as there was a shortage on them. Bill Alexander favored other Grendel manufacturers over Les and Les wasn't getting the bolts he was suppose to be getting. Les found out about and confronted Bill Alexander about it and there was a falling out between him and Bill. The .264 LBC was kind of a way by Lex to get back at Alexander. I can give you a list of people that Bill Alexander screwed over for major money and other things. Bill burned his bridges with just about everyone he dealth with. The 6.5 Grendel forum BTW is full of bias. I was a member when it first started. Anything you want to know about the Grendel just pm me before you print stuff about it that isn't quite true or right. |
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Post by revolvercranker on May 21, 2024 18:52:20 GMT -5
For some reason I can edit on my reply post to Encore. I'm adding this to correct a few things not right in the first post. The first barrel company to make barrels for Alexander Arms was the Lothar Walther Company. The difference in the throats of the 6.5 Grendels is that the first ones had what was called a compound angle throat. I mentioned forcing cone which was incorrect. That compound angle throat is what Les Baur eliminated when he had the falling out with Alexander and came out with his .264 LBC. His throat is more conventional. It was always skeptical if that compound angle throat was an improvement or not.
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Post by Encore64 on May 21, 2024 19:13:01 GMT -5
I put considerable research into both builds before laying out cash. It's just in my nature to do so.
Since then, I've measured fired brass to confirm details.
I usually research my builds with the builders as they have the details, prints and contract the reamers.
Also, I'm not really into the politics of individuals and stick to the sport itself.
There's really been nothing new since the 8x57 Mauser and H&H Belted Cartridges. To ponder a minute change in dimensions to stake a claim of "inventing" a cartridge is a waste of time.
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Post by revolvercranker on May 21, 2024 19:35:15 GMT -5
I put considerable research into both builds before laying out cash. It's just in my nature to do so. Since then, I've measured fired brass to confirm details. I usually research my builds with the builders as they have the details, prints and contract the reamers. Also, I'm not really into the politics of individuals and stick to the sport itself. There's really been nothing new since the 8x57 Mauser and H&H Belted Cartridges. To ponder a minute change in dimensions to stake a claim of "inventing" a cartridge is a waste of time. None of what you said has anything to do with the statement you made about .264 LBC tighter neck. The original Grendel had two chambers to choose from, one with a more normal neck and the other with a much tighter neck, both with the compound throat. Apparently you didn't find that in considerable research. |
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Post by silcott on Aug 15, 2024 8:43:03 GMT -5
Picked up a Howa 6.5 Grendel yesterday. Now to mount optics and make a trip to the range.
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Post by giblett on Aug 15, 2024 20:22:01 GMT -5
Have looked in a while but there was a forum for the 6.5. Wife shoots a Howa . Great lil gun that kills good.
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