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Post by Big Bore on Apr 17, 2024 19:20:19 GMT -5
I’m thinking of sending my new-to-me FA83/.41 mag to Reeder to have a .410 GNR cylinder made for it. I’m curious to hear from those who have this caliber what the actual performance difference is over the .41 magnum? Is it enough to warrant it or just a slight increase over the 41?
**I’ll attempt to add a disclaimer here, although I know this group will have a hard time resisting the urge…ahem…I’m really only looking for feedback on what I mentioned above, not a downward spiral into recommending other, already established calibers.**
So, if you own the 410 GNR in some form or fashion, what are your thoughts on it?
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Post by Encore64 on Apr 17, 2024 19:21:58 GMT -5
I highly doubt Reeder will attempt to build a Freedom Arms Cylinder.
Rechamber of a 41 Magnum is likely no problem...
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Post by Big Bore on Apr 17, 2024 19:28:49 GMT -5
I highly doubt Reeder will attempt to build a Freedom Arms Cylinder. Rechamber of a 41 Magnum is likely no problem... Hmmm…his responses to my emails would indicate otherwise. |
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Post by bigbrowndog on Apr 17, 2024 19:29:05 GMT -5
Probably better to ask what is capable of a 41 mag from a FA83 compared to a 410gnr. The GNR compared to a regular 41mag may be impressive, but to a FA/41mag probably not so much. I also would not give serious consideration to claims from his loading data, my experience with his load data are that they are optimistic. Bearskinner could probably give decent info, but I do not know if he has actual chrono data for his 41mag FA and 410gnr.
Trapr
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Post by Encore64 on Apr 17, 2024 19:46:24 GMT -5
I highly doubt Reeder will attempt to build a Freedom Arms Cylinder. Rechamber of a 41 Magnum is likely no problem... Hmmm…his responses to my emails would indicate otherwise. Keep us posted... |
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Post by bigbore5 on Apr 17, 2024 19:51:29 GMT -5
In the fa 83, my uncle used to match or nearly so Reeders claimed velocities. He has passed on now, so I don't know his data, but have seen the chrono personally. It will easily withstand the Casull 60,000 psi limit.
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Post by bigbrowndog on Apr 17, 2024 19:57:15 GMT -5
My 414sm easily pushes a 250-265gr.at 1500-1600fps. I would assume from an FA, your 41 should be capable of similar.Reeder claims a 255gr. at 1900fps but does not say if it’s from an Encore or SA revolver. I’d bet it’s an Encore.
Trapr
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Post by bigbore5 on Apr 17, 2024 19:59:23 GMT -5
My 414sm easily pushes a 250-265gr.at 1500-1600fps. I would assume from an FA, your 41 should be capable of similar.Reeder claims a 255gr. at 1900fps but does not say if it’s from an Encore or SA revolver. I’d bet it’s an Encore. Trapr It's from a 14" encore. |
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Post by Randominator on Apr 17, 2024 20:02:45 GMT -5
I highly doubt Reeder will attempt to build a Freedom Arms Cylinder. Rechamber of a 41 Magnum is likely no problem... Gary has built several cylinders for Freedom Arms revolvers. I have a Redhawk rechambered in 429 GNR and it’s a great cartridge. |
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Post by Encore64 on Apr 17, 2024 20:05:33 GMT -5
I highly doubt Reeder will attempt to build a Freedom Arms Cylinder. Rechamber of a 41 Magnum is likely no problem... Gary has built several cylinders for Freedom Arms revolvers. I have a Redhawk rechambered in 429 GNR and it’s a great cartridge. Well, hopefully I'm wrong. But, I don't think I've ever seen an aftermarket FA Cylinder. Hopefully the O.P. will keep us updated. |
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Post by Randominator on Apr 17, 2024 20:14:38 GMT -5
Gary has built several cylinders for Freedom Arms revolvers. I have a Redhawk rechambered in 429 GNR and it’s a great cartridge. Well, hopefully I'm wrong. But, I don't think I've ever seen an aftermarket FA Cylinder. Hopefully the O.P. will keep us updated. I know Gary has rechambered FA cylinders, I thought he had built some as well. Bearskinner will know. |
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Post by bigbore5 on Apr 17, 2024 20:19:16 GMT -5
My son had a 83 410GNR he built. I'll have to ask his widow for some pics when I call the grandkids this weekend. He loaded it all out at first, but went back to the 41 cylinder and book loads after a while.
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Post by bearskinner on Apr 17, 2024 22:52:49 GMT -5
I have a Ruger Bisley with both cylinders (5 shots) and my FA83 was ordered with 2 41 mag cylinders (5 shot also) just to have it made into a 410GNR. I’ve also had two other blackhawks and a Redhawk in .410. I have shot hundreds of rounds of these. It acts like the .454 but less recoil, probably due to using 250-260 grain bullets, instead of 300 grain plus in the 454. I have not chrono’ed the 410GNR, something to add to my list! If you shoot 215 grainers normally in your 41 mag, this would be great to shoot heavier big flat nose lead bullets. I would estimate my accuracy load in .410GNR at 1600-1700, and I know the heavy 260 in 41 mag does just over 1300. Randy, I’ll take some pics tomorrow, and show you the difference in the rounds, and measure case capacity’s etc.
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Post by bigbrowndog on Apr 18, 2024 9:36:07 GMT -5
I have a Ruger Bisley with both cylinders (5 shots) and my FA83 was ordered with 2 41 mag cylinders (5 shot also) just to have it made into a 410GNR. I’ve also had two other blackhawks and a Redhawk in .410. I have shot hundreds of rounds of these. It acts like the .454 but less recoil, probably due to using 250-260 grain bullets, instead of 300 grain plus in the 454. I have not chrono’ed the 410GNR, something to add to my list! If you shoot 215 grainers normally in your 41 mag, this would be great to shoot heavier big flat nose lead bullets. I would estimate my accuracy load in .410GNR at 1600-1700, and I know the heavy 260 in 41 mag does just over 1300. Randy, I’ll take some pics tomorrow, and show you the difference in the rounds, and measure case capacity’s etc. And Chrono!! Trapr |
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Post by bearskinner on Apr 18, 2024 10:39:46 GMT -5
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