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Post by squawberryman on Apr 2, 2024 12:23:16 GMT -5
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Post by potatojudge on Apr 2, 2024 12:33:42 GMT -5
Neat design that looks well made and the primer tube attachment kicks it up a notch. I could see using it though the price stings.
The 0.01 mm adjustments are worth what they are in every other precision primer seating tool- you can uniform the primer pockets and set the primer plunger depth precisely, but primer cups will always have variation in height that nobody yet has a work around for.
Maybe what we need next is a primer cup height uniforming tool. Well, maybe not need but that will scratch the itch of the OCD loaders and make use of precision priming tools.
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Post by potatojudge on Apr 2, 2024 19:40:12 GMT -5
Probably better still a priming tool that detects resistance from a bottomed out primer and is adjustable for force or depth of crush beyond that.
Thats a tool I’d use for reliability purposes. My Dillons sometimes leave a primer a little high and if I don’t catch it I get a misfire.
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Post by nicholst55 on Apr 2, 2024 20:08:47 GMT -5
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Post by marlin35 on Apr 2, 2024 20:45:51 GMT -5
Probably better still a priming tool that detects resistance from a bottomed out primer and is adjustable for force or depth of crush beyond that. Thats a tool I’d use for reliability purposes. My Dillons sometimes leave a primer a little high and if I don’t catch it I get a misfire. I like the sound of that. Sounds much like a torque wrench. |
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Post by mhblaw on Apr 2, 2024 20:56:02 GMT -5
Give me a break!
I have been reloading my own since the late 70’s. Calibers from 22Hornet to 7mm IHMSA. Still using a Lee hand primer tool. Works great. No issues. Where’s the beef? Or is it just the urge to get the latest?
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Post by x101airborne on Apr 3, 2024 7:25:41 GMT -5
No beef. The Lee primer tool is great and inexpensive for the quality. I just flat wore mine out and sometimes even if I had the right shell holder if a case had a minimum allowance rim, sometimes the case would pop out of the shell holder and that would cause me to tilt the pan and raise the ram to get the next primer to go back in the pan. Then I would have to cautiously hold the popped case in the holder and finish setting the primer. Not a huge deal at all, just annoying. I got a Frankford Arsenal and love it much more than the Lee. Probably in the back of my mind I like it more because it is a new to me product but I definitely like the case that holds all the parts together rather than being loose in a box. The primer pan also fits tighter and when I am using it and forget to keep it tilted my FA pan has not slipped out and hit the floor "yet". NOTHING wrong with the Lee. I have just moved on.
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Post by gregs on Apr 6, 2024 11:53:27 GMT -5
Simular to the now discontinued RCBS APS strip system. Once I found hand priming that was it on the search. Looked at the APS system alot for bench priming but was it was getting hard to find just before it was discontinued I gave up on the idea. Priming on a press or filling primer tubes is a non-starter for me although I'll go through the hassle for loading pistol on a Dillon.
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Post by bushog on Apr 6, 2024 12:49:13 GMT -5
I’ll stick to my Sinclair priming too. Slow and steady wins the race….
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Post by zeus on Apr 6, 2024 20:16:38 GMT -5
Give me a break! I have been reloading my own since the late 70’s. Calibers from 22Hornet to 7mm IHMSA. Still using a Lee hand primer tool. Works great. No issues. Where’s the beef? Or is it just the urge to get the latest? It’s about consistency. I loved my hand priming tools but they are of zero use on our big rifles and loads for extreme accuracy. On handguns, I wouldn’t worry either way. And normal hunting/shooting loads maybe the same. But for extreme accuracy I want o know I have the depth exactly the same every time. It’s nothing to do with having the latest etc. Ignore the price on these types of things and look at the purpose. It’s NOT just any old priming tool. I can’t speak for the one in OP link but I can for the CPS tool linked in the middle of this thread. I won’t be getting rid of mine anytime soon 😉 |
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Post by handloadingnotes on Apr 12, 2024 11:57:58 GMT -5
I'm a little embarrassed to say I got that thing. I like it. I also know I spent too much, especially since what I actually use it for the most is a way to prime lots of cases at once without my hand cramping. But it's still better than the RCBS, LEE, or Forster bench-mounted priming tools. The RCBS swinging-tube is fiddely. I got what I paid for with the recent-production LEE tool I tried. The Forster tool jaws are a nightmare to adjust, I worry about what happens if it's half-open strip of primer goes off, and it should come with the plastic "Primer Tube Loader", but once set up it's honestly pretty great (EDIT: wow, the price more than doubled since I got mine!). The Primal Rights seater is not quite as satisfying as using the 21st Century hand priming tool, but it's pretty nice. I am honestly not at a place where I can see a difference in the accuracy of my shooting from the accuracy of my primer seater. But the Primal Rights and 21st Century tools are impressive and seem repeatable. The Primal Rights seater works much better with a rubber band wrapped around it to make the shuttle automatically return. Yes, I feel silly paying that much money for something that needs a rubber band around it to work it's best. But the tool really is currently best in it's class. Serious hand loaders are a niche industry. I saw a video interview of the creator and I liked how he thought. I had extra shooting-cash saved up over COVID, and I'm glad he got it. There's always room for improvement. If the return-stroke of the tool cycled the shuttle it'd go even faster! I'm happy to see new priming tools like the one this thread is really about. It's good competition. Bottom line: if you're seriously thinking about the Primal Rights priming tool, or you're the the kind of person who has a high end laboratory scale — get it. If you're the kind of person who thinks it's a silly waste of money and an old mechanical scale works just fine … well damn it, you're right too! |
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