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Post by marlin35 on Mar 17, 2024 15:41:28 GMT -5
My 45 Cowboy Special loads fit and shoot in my S&W 1917 just fine - plenty accurate too! One of my favorite things is hunting squirrels with 45 Cowboy Special in my dearest 45 Colt SA’s - a Harton’ed USFA and FA 97 that was practically gifted to me by a favorite kindred-soul Though slow (620 fps w/ 5.2 gr of Unique), hitting a squirrel with a 200 gr bullet is like throwing an anvil at them - even poor hits are catastrophic. Now I’ve GOT to find a 1917 and some stags to go on it!
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Post by gcf on Mar 17, 2024 16:16:13 GMT -5
My 45 Cowboy Special loads fit and shoot in my S&W 1917 just fine - plenty accurate too! One of my favorite things is hunting squirrels with 45 Cowboy Special in my dearest 45 Colt SA’s - a Harton’ed USFA and FA 97 that was practically gifted to me by a favorite kindred-soul Though slow (620 fps w/ 5.2 gr of Unique), hitting a squirrel with a 200 gr bullet is like throwing an anvil at them - even poor hits are catastrophic. Nice job on the 1917. Guessing 45acp, not 45 colt conversion? USFA ain’t bad either. Had to do a double take on the sights…
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Post by marlin35 on Mar 17, 2024 16:17:57 GMT -5
My guess was .45 colt. I think the ACP would require the use of auto rim brass instead of being able to use the cowboy special.
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Post by revolvercranker on Mar 17, 2024 16:31:45 GMT -5
My guess was .45 colt. I think the ACP would require the use of auto rim brass instead of being able to use the cowboy special. Not if the 45 Cowboy cartridge fit your Ruger's extra 45acp, not quite sure what you're talking about. Are talking about a 45acp revolver that doesn't need moon clips or auto rim brass, or are you talking about a 1911? The single action Colt 45 pictured wouldn't need auto rim, the Cowby 45's fit it.
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Post by gcf on Mar 17, 2024 16:38:50 GMT -5
My guess was .45 colt. I think the ACP would require the use of auto rim brass instead of being able to use the cowboy special. True. Of course IINM, some 1917’s went to the Brits, chambered in their.45 Webley (sp). No? Course that could be a stretch…
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Post by marlin35 on Mar 17, 2024 16:41:29 GMT -5
My guess was .45 colt. I think the ACP would require the use of auto rim brass instead of being able to use the cowboy special. Not if the 45 Cowboy cartridge fit your Ruger's extra 45acp, not quite sure what you're talking about. Are talking about a 45acp revolver that doesn't need moon clips or auto rim brass, or are you talking about a 1911? The single action Colt 45 pictured wouldn't need auto rim, the Cowby 45's fit it. I was referring to the 1917 and its chambering. If it was chambered for .45 acp, wouldn’t it need either moon clips or Auto rim?
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Post by gcf on Mar 17, 2024 16:42:18 GMT -5
My guess was .45 colt. I think the ACP would require the use of auto rim brass instead of being able to use the cowboy special. True. Of course IINM, some 1917’s went to the Brits, chambered in their.45 Webley (sp). No? Course that could be a stretch… Talking about the 1917. I think…
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Post by alukban on Mar 17, 2024 16:59:11 GMT -5
True. Of course IINM, some 1917’s went to the Brits, chambered in their.45 Webley (sp). No? Course that could be a stretch… Talking about the 1917. I think… The 1917 is a regular 45 ACP. I do have 45 AR and they fit the 1917 also just fine. The cool thing about the 45 Cowboy Special is that it seems to kot need much sight adjustment from regular 45 Colt loadings - same sight picture to about 30y.
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Post by revolvercranker on Mar 17, 2024 17:09:13 GMT -5
Talking about the 1917. I think… The 1917 is a regular 45 ACP. I do have 45 AR and they fit the 1917 also just fine. The cool thing about the 45 Cowboy Special is that it seems to kot need much sight adjustment from regular 45 Colt loadings - same sight picture to about 30y. Okay we're clear now. Yes your 1917 would need auto rim brass or moonclips. Sorry for my confusion. I have a new service Colt, but in 45 Colt.
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Post by marlin35 on Mar 17, 2024 17:11:09 GMT -5
Talking about the 1917. I think… The 1917 is a regular 45 ACP. I do have 45 AR and they fit the 1917 also just fine. The cool thing about the 45 Cowboy Special is that it seems to kot need much sight adjustment from regular 45 Colt loadings - same sight picture to about 30y. Does the cowboy special have movement between the rear of the cylinder and the breech face? Does that affect the life of your brass if so?
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Post by alukban on Mar 18, 2024 10:10:31 GMT -5
The 1917 is a regular 45 ACP. I do have 45 AR and they fit the 1917 also just fine. The cool thing about the 45 Cowboy Special is that it seems to kot need much sight adjustment from regular 45 Colt loadings - same sight picture to about 30y. Does the cowboy special have movement between the rear of the cylinder and the breech face? Does that affect the life of your brass if so? There is some but I never noticed how much and I have not really shot this brass enough to figure out if they were being affected. Sorry!
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Post by Encore64 on Mar 18, 2024 17:58:45 GMT -5
The 1917 is a regular 45 ACP. I do have 45 AR and they fit the 1917 also just fine. The cool thing about the 45 Cowboy Special is that it seems to kot need much sight adjustment from regular 45 Colt loadings - same sight picture to about 30y. Does the cowboy special have movement between the rear of the cylinder and the breech face? Does that affect the life of your brass if so? Keep in mind the 45 CB Brass is the same length as the 45 ACP and 45 Auto Rim. So, if allowed to headspace on the case mouth, the thinner rim has zero effect on anything. If you roll crimp, the situation changes.
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Post by marlin35 on Mar 18, 2024 20:09:52 GMT -5
Does the cowboy special have movement between the rear of the cylinder and the breech face? Does that affect the life of your brass if so? Keep in mind the 45 CB Brass is the same length as the 45 ACP and 45 Auto Rim. So, if allowed to headspace on the case mouth, the thinner rim has zero effect on anything. If you roll crimp, the situation changes. I see, that makes sense. I was curious to know if there were any issues with bulging at the unsupported portion of the case wall.
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Post by revolvercranker on Mar 18, 2024 20:12:48 GMT -5
Keep in mind the 45 CB Brass is the same length as the 45 ACP and 45 Auto Rim. So, if allowed to headspace on the case mouth, the thinner rim has zero effect on anything. If you roll crimp, the situation changes. I see, that makes sense. I was curious to know if there were any issues with bulging at the unsupported portion of the case wall. It doesn't stick out enough to do that. Section a case sometime and see how thick the web is. Think on 1911's that have modified feed ramps, they expose much more and no problem with them even on hot rounds like the 10mm.
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Post by Burnston on Mar 18, 2024 21:19:57 GMT -5
My 45 Cowboy Special loads fit and shoot in my S&W 1917 just fine - plenty accurate too! One of my favorite things is hunting squirrels with 45 Cowboy Special in my dearest 45 Colt SA’s - a Harton’ed USFA and FA 97 that was practically gifted to me by a favorite kindred-soul Though slow (620 fps w/ 5.2 gr of Unique), hitting a squirrel with a 200 gr bullet is like throwing an anvil at them - even poor hits are catastrophic. Not to be provocative or disrespectful, but I'm fair certain I need that 1917. Bear in mind, I've never looked at a firearm and said I "need" it. That said, I need that pistol. What do you say? Your ffl to mine?
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