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Post by magnumwheelman on Feb 26, 2024 12:29:06 GMT -5
I agree bore shouldn't matter to what sized gun it's shot in, I've always looked at what is my median bore size, anything bigger is a "big Bore"... for me, 45 caliber is my current medium sized bore, so for me big bore starts at >45... when I 1st started collecting, I would have said big bore started at 40 caliber, back then 357 was my average bore size for the guns I owned... ( say's the guy who carry's a 45 colt snubbie )
and handgun & rifle "big Bore" are different
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Post by magnumwheelman on Feb 26, 2024 12:39:17 GMT -5
this 45 Colt, is not a big bore compared to my 480 Ruger Alaskan... ![](https://i.ibb.co/sWH6KtP/45-Colt-Snubbie-engraved-teaser-photo.jpg) ![](https://i.ibb.co/89q87qy/480-Ruger-Huge-Opposum.jpg)
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Post by birdshead2021 on Feb 26, 2024 13:11:26 GMT -5
Magnumwheelman every time I see that birdshead snubbie I gotta make sure there ain’t a hacksaw nearby to turn my birdshead into a copy!!! That thing is awesome!
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Post by clintsfolly on Feb 26, 2024 13:11:45 GMT -5
Traditionally 17 -29 small bore 30 -39 medium bore 40- up big bore The keyword is bore!
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Post by bigbore5 on Feb 26, 2024 13:59:34 GMT -5
Definitely not gun size. I've got a FA 83 22lr 9-1/2" Silhouette.
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Post by Encore64 on Feb 26, 2024 14:08:20 GMT -5
Thanks for the input. As we all have known for years, there's varying definition of big bore and all bore sizes...
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Post by edk on Feb 26, 2024 14:44:32 GMT -5
no big bore revolvers existed over 30-40 years ago. 1984-1994? ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) Big bore to me is 41 and up. Size of the gun isn't a part of my personal equation. My 5 shot 22 Hornet? Small bore. 22 Hornet Ruger Super Redhawk? Small bore. My 5 shot Charter Arms Pit Bull 45 ACP? Big Bore! 45-70 Bond Arms Deringer? Big Bore! We've had 45 Colt for 150 years, 44 Special for 100 years. If the requirement is that a big bore is defined as greater than 45, how many existed before that date range?
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Post by bula on Feb 26, 2024 15:10:38 GMT -5
A unique look at the old question. Like I always thought my opinion on, was me looking straight at the question. Then the OP asked me to move 30 degrees around, offline, and look again ! I saw this thread soon after it went up and I'm still not back to having a solid answer for ya's. It kinda hurts..
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Post by marcruger on Feb 26, 2024 15:41:39 GMT -5
Dummy me! Big bore. Flintlock and percussion single-shot blackpowder pistols. Some of those were indeed BIG bore. Prior to the Walker, Dragoon, 1860, etc. Some of the "longrifle" era pistols were .50, .54, .58, .62 and on up. Were they as effective as a current .454 out of a Freedom Arms 83? Not at any range beyond 10 yards or so I wouldn't guess. Just something to think about. I recall Duke Venturino saying something like, "Is it obsolete? Yes. Is it ineffective? No." Just depends on the circumstances. I sure would not like to get hit by any projectile.
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Post by sharps4590 on Feb 26, 2024 15:54:29 GMT -5
Maybe it's like pornography. I can't describe it but I know it when I see it.
Regarding handguns, I can't explain it but, I know it when I pull the trigger.....
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Post by jeffh on Feb 26, 2024 16:59:30 GMT -5
Big BORE seems pretty clear - it references BORE, or the size of the hole, not the relative size of the gun or how much powder, pressure, KE, bullet weight, velocity or recoil is involved.
"BIG," on the other hand IS subjective, but it's still in reference to the BORE, so who decides what's small, medium or "BIG?"
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Post by gnappi on Feb 26, 2024 17:06:07 GMT -5
To me any caliber that starts with a 4 (or more) is a big bore.
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Post by Encore64 on Feb 26, 2024 17:54:15 GMT -5
Well, when Winchester introduced the Big "Bore" 94, it was chambered in 375 Winchester. We'd not likely identify a 375 Caliber Revolver as a big bore.
I always assumed Winchester was referencing the 375's status relative to the 30-30? But, that was a guess.
I always called anything 32 and under as small bore. 357 thru 45 as mid bore and anything larger as big bore.
None of us are right or wrong. We just define a relative size differently...
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Post by revolvercranker on Feb 26, 2024 18:21:52 GMT -5
Not a good analogy,but look at the caliber restricts that many sections in Africa has for hunting big game. My opinion, which we all know the joke about that is, big bore in handguns starts at 41. Even in rifles 357 is considered a medium bore. You don't make sense a lot time encore. So a 500 SW on a derringer wouldn't be considered a big bore huh? Of course I don't think we'll see that manufactured. I would see the 357 on the revolver you're shooting it in as a medium bore. Just the nomenclature alone tells you what classification the bore is in: small bore, medium bore, large bore, and last Yamato bore!
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Post by Encore64 on Feb 26, 2024 18:43:16 GMT -5
Big BORE seems pretty clear - it references BORE, or the size of the hole, not the relative size of the gun or how much powder, pressure, KE, bullet weight, velocity or recoil is involved. "BIG," on the other hand IS subjective, but it's still in reference to the BORE, so who decides what's small, medium or "BIG?" Exactly my point Jeff, who decides? My position is none of us are able to be definitive as to small, medium and big bores? So far big bore has been described as 40+, 41+, 44+ and 45+. Everybody is right and nobody is wrong. It's subjective from any logical person's view I'd expect.
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