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Post by rangersedge on Feb 27, 2024 21:49:19 GMT -5
I think all action types have risks and benefits and each person needs to dedicate the time to practice with their preferred action until they are safe and proficient with it.
Cocked and locked: Having that thumb safety could save your life if a bad guy unfamiliar with it gets your gun. It could also cost your life if you're unable to release it in time for whatever reason.
Striker fired with just a trigger safety: Bad guy is going to naturally release the safety when they pull the trigger. You don't have to worry about forgetting to swipe the safety.
DA/SA: Possibly greater potential for accidental discharge when transitioning to lighter trigger pull on second shot?
As Nichols said... training, education, experience. I greatly prefer to carry in a good holster too. I don't want a loaded gun of any type bouncing around loosely in my pocket.
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Post by bigbore5 on Feb 27, 2024 22:17:04 GMT -5
I use the 1911 pattern in my semi's. Sweeping off the safety is a part of the draw. It's automatic and doesn't require conscious thoughts. I don't know how someone who shoots often can flub it.
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Post by rangersedge on Feb 27, 2024 23:01:37 GMT -5
Only by not practicing doing it enough that it is instinctive.
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Post by rexster on Feb 28, 2024 21:17:39 GMT -5
A Glock pistol’s striker is not fully-cocked, so, I am relatively comfortable carrying a Glock pistol with a round chambered. I understand that the little gadget on the face of the trigger is to enhance the drop-safe aspect, rather than act as a manually-operated safety lever. The “relatively” comfortable part is due to the need to be EXTRA-careful when re-holstering a loaded Glock. I am not in favor of carrying a Glock inside my trousers, or in a pocket. I want to use rigid-mouthed holsters, to carry Glocks. A hammer-fired weapon allows me to monitor and manage that hammer, while re-holstering, or while inserting the weapon into an alternative carry item.
To be clear, I am not in love with Glock pistols. I am not a “Glock fan person,” just a retired LEO who was compelled to learn to use Glocks, decades ago, and having invested so much time and treasure into learning the Glock system, am not going to waste that investment. My usual daily basic carry starts with a DA sixgun or five-gun, but, notably, my grab-and-go pack, kept near where I sleep, has one of my former duty Glocks, enclosed in a very high-quality Kydex OWB holster, that I can thread onto my belt as time permits. Sometimes, I wear that Glock, a Gen4 G17, on my belt. I have another Gen4 G17, already vetted for proper function, awaiting a front sight replacement. I have a Gen5 G17 that I am about to start function-testing. A G19x awaits completion of its function-testing, with a milled G45 slide that is equipped with an Aimpoint ACRO optic. Yes, these are big pistols, with service-sized grips.
I am practical. Salt water is not far from us. I like to mess about in small boats, on occasion. My wife and I do “citizen scientist” things, sometimes. (She is a credentialed Texas Master Naturalist.) In the event of a soaking or dunking, I know which type of handgun I would rather deal with. Glocks just make sense, sometimes.
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Post by armoredman on Mar 5, 2024 6:48:26 GMT -5
We transitioned to the G19 and G17 about 23 years ago, from the Ruger Service Six. I missed the transition training, but I have qualified with the Glock 17 for the last 22 years without issue. Our staff that are issued sidearms qualify only once per year, and the training is not as high speed as most street cops. However, in all this time the only negligent discharges I can think of all involved idiots who deliberately did stupid things - ever have someone tell you they had ALWAYS been told to pull the trigger to see if the gun is loaded? No joke. That one blew away a toilet in a hospital restroom...long story, dumb ending. He no longer works for us. Point is - sidearms are carried hot, without fail. I never wanted to carry a Plastic Fantastic UNTIL I laid my hand on my CZ P-1C. I quickly discovered it did everything I wanted out of a defensive pistol. True, it's not glamorous or sexy, but a working mans sidearm that will get the job done. It works well. It also always rides in a holster, not bare in a pocket. Nothing I own rides naked in a pocket, asking for trouble, revolver or self loader. If I had to go back to hammer fired, I'd get another CZ PCR. The point is that training is the key, but you don't have to be SEAL Team proficient to carry a Glock, the single most prevalent LE sidearm in the US today. BTW, I forgot to add - I don't like Glocks. The grip angle just doesn't fit me right. But I've qualified Expert or Distinguished Expert with one for over 22 years. Thank you for reading, apologies if this seems confrontational, is not meant to be in any way.
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Post by bradshaw on Mar 5, 2024 16:58:08 GMT -5
ahmoredman.... appreciate your take. “Confrontational” is when it comes with an attitude, little or no dope, and little or no experience. David Bradshaw
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Post by sixshot on Mar 7, 2024 18:06:09 GMT -5
I guess it's just me but I can live with it, if it doesn't have a manual safety I will not carry it hot. I'm not in law enforcement but I can get one out in a hurry if I'm motivated!
Dick
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Post by revolvercranker on Mar 7, 2024 21:39:32 GMT -5
I guess it's just me but I can live with it, if it doesn't have a manual safety I will not carry it hot. I'm not in law enforcement but I can get one out in a hurry if I'm motivated! Dick Me too Dick, look at how many years I drove cars without seatbelts and airbags!!!
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Post by webber on Mar 7, 2024 22:37:45 GMT -5
I carry a Glock 30 Gen4 most of the time and one is in the chamber.
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Post by rangersedge on Mar 18, 2024 6:49:18 GMT -5
I have to admit that I carried the Glock cocked but unloaded for a little while just so I would be comfortable that it wasn't going to go off unexpectedly. I'm also pretty careful holstering.
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