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Post by marlin35 on Nov 11, 2023 10:04:03 GMT -5
I have a Springfield Ronin that comes with a medium length polymer trigger shoe. I’d like to replace it with an aluminum trigger since it feels like heresy to have a polymer part in a 1911. What say yall about trigger lengths? The short trigger interests me since I do carry this gun and the short trigger seems like it would lend itself well to “tactical” or “combat” shooting. I have foregone the slim grips in favor of standard thickness grips as they make the gun point more naturally for me. I appreciate any feedback yall have for me!
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Post by bigbrowndog on Nov 11, 2023 10:17:01 GMT -5
Trigger length is like shotgun fit, it should be whatever fits your hand and fingers. Not some arbitrary this looks good or that looks good. Trigger length directly affects how you will shoot the gun by means of proper placement of your normal finger pad for touching off a shot. Too long and too much side ways pressure cause the shots to break away from your grip. Too short and the shots break too much inside your grip. Ideally, a trigger shoe with an adjustable insert to determine proper length will help make the correct determination. Otherwise trying different length triggers to see which places your normal grip and finger pad properly is the answer. A simple “try” trigger can be fashioned with a disposable trigger and some judicious use of JB Weld, then sand/file to shorter lengths until you arrive at the proper length.
Trapr
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Post by marlin35 on Nov 11, 2023 12:30:46 GMT -5
Trigger length is like shotgun fit, it should be whatever fits your hand and fingers. Not some arbitrary this looks good or that looks good. Trigger length directly affects how you will shoot the gun by means of proper placement of your normal finger pad for touching off a shot. Too long and too much side ways pressure cause the shots to break away from your grip. Too short and the shots break too much inside your grip. Ideally, a trigger shoe with an adjustable insert to determine proper length will help make the correct determination. Otherwise trying different length triggers to see which places your normal grip and finger pad properly is the answer. A simple “try” trigger can be fashioned with a disposable trigger and some judicious use of JB Weld, then sand/file to shorter lengths until you arrive at the proper length. Trapr Thank you for your input, you are right about letting function come before form, and it is easy to forget that when it comes to customizing guns. The medium trigger fits just right, so I’ll just look to find an aluminum that is the same size.
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Post by cas on Nov 12, 2023 15:19:12 GMT -5
Carbon fiber... or plastic pretending to be carbon fiber is light and light is good with a 1911 trigger.
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Post by marlin35 on Nov 12, 2023 22:42:01 GMT -5
I understand a light hammer and firing pin reducing dwell time but never understood how the light trigger (as in weight not pressure) works to improve shooting.
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Post by nicholst55 on Nov 13, 2023 9:25:03 GMT -5
Steel triggers weigh enough to cause problems. Remember the 'extra' parts that Colt put in the Gold Cup, the sear depressor and spring? That was to resolve issues caused by that big steel trigger. I've had a polymer STI trigger (only the finger piece is plastic) in a 1911 for 25 years, and have no beef with it.
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Post by seminolewind on Nov 13, 2023 9:59:16 GMT -5
I understand a light hammer and firing pin reducing dwell time but never understood how the light trigger (as in weight not pressure) works to improve shooting. Lighter 1911 triggers reset fractionally quicker than a heavier trigger, for those skilled enough to see a difference in time between shots. Not me.
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Post by marlin35 on Nov 13, 2023 10:04:01 GMT -5
Steel triggers weigh enough to cause problems. Remember the 'extra' parts that Colt put in the Gold Cup, the sear depressor and spring? That was to resolve issues caused by that big steel trigger. I've had a polymer STI trigger (only the finger piece is plastic) in a 1911 for 25 years, and have no beef with it. I appreciate your feedback, I hadn’t ever seen a polymer trigger before my ronin so I wasn’t sure that there was a track record for longevity there. I’ll just leave it like it is then and keep working on replacing MIM parts. I wanted to use the gun bone stock for 5000 rounds and now that we’re there, I’m working on getting some bulletproof parts in this gun.
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Post by gregs on Nov 15, 2023 4:13:08 GMT -5
The mass of the old steel triggers were a problem when they started hot rodding 1911s in the 70s which created the Valdecki trigger. Less mass riding on the sear was safer.
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Post by AxeHandle on Nov 15, 2023 8:00:15 GMT -5
The mass of the old steel triggers were a problem when they started hot rodding 1911s Exactly.. Hot rodding for speed not necessarily accuracy. MY USAF issue AFPG guns had steel triggers. The 45 wadcutter 1911s used in bullseye competition Then and now are required to have at least a 3.5 pound trigger. Rapid fire was/is 5 shots in 10 seconds. Steel trigger didn't matter. This pre series 70 Commercial Colt was built in the 60s. It has a steel trigger.
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Post by x101airborne on Nov 19, 2023 7:07:42 GMT -5
That is a cool sight setup. I understand for competition use, not field carry. Not that you "couldn't", but.
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Post by AxeHandle on Nov 19, 2023 19:23:18 GMT -5
Standard extended sight BoMar rib. Before the red dots appeared this sight configuration ruled the Bullseye range on 45 wadcutter guns. Provided the maximum sight radius allowed by the rules.
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