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Post by strawhat on Sept 23, 2023 18:31:15 GMT -5
I'd like to see some more pics of custom 45 acp revolvers if you have any. How does chopping the barrel affect the guns balance and accuracy? I have cut many barrels in my time, muzzle loaders, rifles and revolvers. You asked about revolvers. Here are two barrels I cut. Both 45 ACP, but one is tapered and one is the bull barrel of the 1955 style.  The tapered barrel lost 1.5” of barrel and retained then square butt profile. I can tell the difference in the balance, pointability, and the way it carries, compared to the 5.5” of the Army or Civilian Model 1917. Accuracy, tough one to judge. I did not test the accuracy of this particular barrel when it was long as I received it cut. However, I can tell you, I can easy keep 18 shots in the 8 ring of a B27 target at 25 yards.  The above revolver is a Model 25-2, 45 ACP, that is now wearing a 4.25” barrel, (it came that length and I am too cheap to cut the other 1/4” off!), the grip frame is rounded and it is double action only. Again, I did not cut this barrel. The feel of this revolver is completely different from the standard Model 25-2 with a 6” or 6.5” barrel. Much of that is the round butt. However, when I put rb/SB conversion stock on it, it is still a significant difference. The balance shifts from a very muzzle heavy feel to balancing just forward of the trigger. On my belt, there is a lot less weight and the draw is significantly less than the 6.5” draw. Accuracy, the best thing I can say, I wish I had this revolver when I was competing in PPC! Yes, it is that accurate! I attribute some of the accuracy of both revolvers to the gold bead front sight being easier to see and acquire. Some points can be attributed to the smooth action of both revolvers. And the crown also effects accuracy. And, the IS a difference in the balance and feel between the adjustable sighted 1955 and the fixed sight 1917. Years ago, I determined what were my preferred barrel lengths, 3” is perfect for the I and J frame, 5” rules in K frames and 4” is the perfect length for an N frame. Do I recommend everyone cut their barrels? No! For one thing, 4” barrels are easily found, with adjustable or fixed sights. But, each shooter needs to determine what works for them. I read many comments about how “I think the 5” 44 Magnum is perfect! Skeeter Skelton is right.” Well… Skeeter thought the 5” barrel was appropriate for the small bore N frame, ie the 357 S&W Magnum. I do not believe he ever mentioned his preferred length in larger bores. It is up to the shooter to figure out what works for them. But, life is too short to carry an “everyman’s revolver”, figure out what you like and have it made! Kevin |
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Post by ridenshoot on Sept 24, 2023 14:54:56 GMT -5
Performance Center 625.  C&S Extreme duty rear sight w/ gold bead, Ahrends grips and Milt Sparks holster. |
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Post by strawhat on Sept 27, 2023 21:47:04 GMT -5
Performance Center 625. View AttachmentC&S Extreme duty rear sight w/ gold bead, Ahrends grips and Milt Sparks holster. Nice revolver! Not one I have or am familiar with as I generally prefer blued revolvers and have done much of my research there. I am just getting into the stainless series. I have a Model 625-6, 45 ACP Mountain Gun, identical to the Model 28-2 I converted 4 decades ago. Looking to add more stainless revolvers. Kevin |
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Post by strawhat on Apr 15, 2024 6:36:08 GMT -5
Yep, my only DA is a S&W 25 Model of 1989... Using Power Pistol Powder, the performance impressed me enough to build or convert 5 Single Actions to shoot the cartridge… Well, since you mentioned it. In the late 70s, I purchased an Italian Colt Copy from Navy Arms. It came chambered in 45 long Colt. It had a 5.5” barrel and balanced and shot well. Used it to take several Ohio white tailed deer. By 1980, the ACP bug had really taken hold of me and I located an ACP cylinder for the clone. I put it in place with a little judicious filing and really liked it.   The grip are some of the densest antler I have found and really shift the balance back into the palm of my hand. Recently, after a move, I was going through boxes of stuff and found the original cylinder. I had “lost” it as the ACP performs so well. Kevin |
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Post by oldncrusty on Apr 19, 2024 1:55:19 GMT -5
What a great thread. Thanks Strawhat. Just picked up my first N frame. A rough looking 1917 with excellemt bore and mechanics.
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Post by needsmostuff on Apr 19, 2024 9:30:25 GMT -5
Thankfully the S&W hoarders around here were too particular about finish and left this ole 1937 Brazilian gathering dust in a pawn shop till they discounted it. Very thin ,sanded grips and the action felt funkey but both tidied up real fast with a little TLC. Sorry these pictures are cluttered up with pointy things. Never gonna be a target gun but a dandy, fun shooter.  upload imageIn the same vein the 22-4 is completely capable for a newer lockable gun.  At one time I had a 325SC Thunder Ranch that was a total dog and I never could get to shoot straight?  ? It is gone now as either of the above could handily outshoot it with any ammo I tried. |
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Post by strawhat on Apr 20, 2024 4:43:14 GMT -5
Thankfully the S&W hoarders around here were too particular about finish and left this ole 1937 Brazilian gathering dust in a pawn shop till they discounted it. Very thin ,sanded grips and the action felt funkey but both tidied up real fast with a little TLC. Sorry these pictures are cluttered up with pointy things. Never gonna be a target gun but a dandy, fun shooter. … In the same vein the 22-4 is completely capable for a newer lockable gun. … At one time I had a 325SC Thunder Ranch that was a total dog and I never could get to shoot straight? ? It is gone now as either of the above could handily outshoot it with any ammo I tried. That Brazilian is a nice revolver. Is it from the first or second contract? The Model 22-4, my current favorite and edc! Kevin |
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Post by ridenshoot on Apr 20, 2024 6:39:53 GMT -5
Did somebody say 325SC Thunder Ranch? This one shoots those 45 AR rounds in the pic reasonably well considering who is pulling the trigger. But those Hogues had to go down the road...mmmm....blisters.  |
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Post by strawhat on Apr 23, 2024 19:49:36 GMT -5
I have not had the opportunity to handle the Model 325. I like that front sight. Is it standard?
Kevin
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Post by stubshaft on Apr 23, 2024 20:04:19 GMT -5
I got rid of the Miculek grips and put on something I could hold onto.  |
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Post by strawhat on Apr 23, 2024 20:26:57 GMT -5
An acquaintance on another forum called me, “… I have a 45 ACP, Model 1950 for sale…”. So, we talked for a bit. I talked about the history of the revolver, why it was made, etc. He mentioned what a good shooter it was. I asked what year it shipped. He had no idea. I got the serial number and found out it shipped in July 1955, four months after I was born. I am looking for a birth year revolver but would like it to be a first year, 45 ACP, Model 1955. (Production of those started in March of 1955.) I passed on the purchase and he listed it for a very reasonable price on the S&W forum. Herself saw the listing and asked if I had seen it. When I told her I was very aware of the revolver and had passed on it, well… let’s say we had a discussion! I explained the difference between the Model 1950 and the Model 1955. To cut to the chase, after the discussion, I called Larry and said “I’ll take it.” He laughed and said “I knew you would”. So, here is a birth year revolver for me,   I had just a brief chance to fire it. I took six shots, about 80 yards, at a cardboard disc the size of a 5 gallon pail bottom. Offhand, the first shot was a low miss, four of the next five were good hits. Still looking for a birth year Model 1955 but this one is a keeper! Kevin |
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Post by ridenshoot on Apr 26, 2024 19:35:19 GMT -5
I have not had the opportunity to handle the Model 325. I like that front sight. Is it standard? Kevin I bought this revolver used but I do believe that it is standard. All of the articles I have seen indicate that it is. |
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Post by strawhat on Apr 26, 2024 20:16:01 GMT -5
Thank you.
Kevin
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Post by Sarge on Apr 27, 2024 10:01:57 GMT -5
Great thread guys. I've only had one, a'37 Brazilian that I sorta regret moving.  |
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Post by strawhat on Apr 27, 2024 10:06:35 GMT -5
Great thread guys. I've only had one, a'37 Brazilian that I sorta regret moving. The Model 1917, Brazilian model, was my entry into ACP heaven. I have probably owned a dozen and handled many more. Good news!, there are more out there! Kevin |
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? It is gone now as either of the above could handily outshoot it with any ammo I tried.
