tj3006
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Post by tj3006 on Sept 18, 2023 4:13:43 GMT -5
I have Redding Profile crimp dies for .32 .357 and .44 caliber revolvers.
I plan on doing a lot more .45 Colt loading. I have a set of Carbide Redding dies for the cartridge and got good results with my last loads by separating the seat and crimp function with the same die.
I was looking online, and Midway has the lee factory Crimp Die as well as the Redding profile crimp.
Anybody out there that has used both? Witch does what better, or should I just save the money and do what i am doing now?. Thanks TJ
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Post by bigbore5 on Sept 18, 2023 5:23:41 GMT -5
Both work for me just fine. Just be careful to not overcrimp with the lee.
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Post by gnappi on Sept 18, 2023 6:09:35 GMT -5
I had just ONE Lee factory crimp die, it self destructed crushing the die body with an ever so slight misalignment of my 550's shell plate. I sent it back to Lee without a note or return address :-)
I've used many Lee dies over the years and NEVER had a Lee or other brand die self destruct, nevermore.
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Post by contender on Sept 18, 2023 9:15:43 GMT -5
For the most part, my personal experiences have been to just separate the seating & crimping into (2) different operations using the same die. But if you do get a separate crimping die, it does make it a little easier to swap things, AND keep things uniform. For separate dies,, I use either the same brand of die, just getting an extra seating/crimp die & remove the seating stem, or I prefer the Redding ones. I do use this method when I'm truly trying to really get picky about as many "human error" issues in my loading & trying to remove the human factor part. Uniformity translates into better ammo, especially at longer ranges.
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Post by markwell on Sept 18, 2023 9:36:33 GMT -5
Since I load most of my handgun ammo on Dillons, I use a separate crimp die almost exclusively and prefer those from Redding or Dillon.
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Post by bradshaw on Sept 18, 2023 9:57:43 GMT -5
I have Redding Profile crimp dies for .32 .357 and .44 caliber revolvers. I plan on doing a lot more .45 Colt loading. I have a set of Carbide Redding dies for the cartridge and got good results with my last loads by separating the seat and crimp function with the same die. I was looking online, and Midway has the lee factory Crimp Die as well as the Redding profile crimp. Anybody out there that has used both? Witch does what better, or should I just save the money and do what i am doing now?. Thanks TJ ***** Ran a short experiment to compare Redding Profile and roll crimp on .44 Mag silhouette loads. Sierra 240 Jacketed Hollow Cavity (JHC) in Federal brass. Don’t recall powder, probably Winchester 296 or self-same Hodgdon 110. Slightly smaller Extreme Spread with roll crimp. The roll crimp seemed to have a molecular advantage in accuracy @ 100 & 200 yards. Providing the shooter was on top of his or her game, either crimp would carry a match. A profile crimp may work best on thin brass, or where the expander plug is thicker than desirable for bullet, or brass. Potential problems reduce way down when the crimp is separate from seating. Trouble starts when the crimp is applied before seating is complete. David Bradshaw |
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Post by kevshell on Sept 18, 2023 10:32:48 GMT -5
I have Redding Profile crimp dies for .32 .357 and .44 caliber revolvers. I plan on doing a lot more .45 Colt loading. I have a set of Carbide Redding dies for the cartridge and got good results with my last loads by separating the seat and crimp function with the same die. I was looking online, and Midway has the lee factory Crimp Die as well as the Redding profile crimp. Anybody out there that has used both? Witch does what better, or should I just save the money and do what i am doing now?. Thanks TJ ***** Ran a short experiment to compare Redding Profile and roll crimp on .44 Mag silhouette loads. Sierra 240 Jacketed Hollow Cavity (JHC) in Federal brass. Don’t recall powder, probably Winchester 296 or self-same Hodgdon 110. Slightly smaller Extreme Spread with roll crimp. The roll crimp seemed to have a molecular advantage in accuracy @ 100 & 200 yards. Providing the shooter was on top of his or her game, either crimp would carry a match. A profile crimp may work best on thin brass, or where the expander plug is thicker than desirable for bullet, or brass. Potential problems reduce way down when the crimp is separate from seating. Trouble starts when the crimp is applied before seating is complete. David Bradshaw I crumbled quite a few 357 and 32 cases many years ago before I learned to seat and crimp in 2 steps. |
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Post by tj3006 on Sept 18, 2023 16:26:51 GMT -5
Thanks for the advice. For now I will just roll crimp as a separate step
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Post by bigbore5 on Sept 18, 2023 17:50:14 GMT -5
One reason I really like the Lee factory crimp is it ensures the finished round is SAAMI minimum specs and will chamber in FA guns every time.
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Post by tj3006 on Sept 18, 2023 20:22:20 GMT -5
I found a Lee Crimp Die, in 45 Colt. I did not know i had it.
I have some brass ready to load. I want a hunting load with that 255 grain bullet. 21.5 grains of 4227 gave me 1040. I think I will try 23. I would like 1200 FPS...tj
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Post by northerngos on Sept 18, 2023 20:42:43 GMT -5
I have Redding Profile crimp dies for .32 .357 and .44 caliber revolvers. I plan on doing a lot more .45 Colt loading. I have a set of Carbide Redding dies for the cartridge and got good results with my last loads by separating the seat and crimp function with the same die. I was looking online, and Midway has the lee factory Crimp Die as well as the Redding profile crimp. Anybody out there that has used both? Witch does what better, or should I just save the money and do what i am doing now?. Thanks TJ ***** Ran a short experiment to compare Redding Profile and roll crimp on .44 Mag silhouette loads. Sierra 240 Jacketed Hollow Cavity (JHC) in Federal brass. Don’t recall powder, probably Winchester 296 or self-same Hodgdon 110. Slightly smaller Extreme Spread with roll crimp. The roll crimp seemed to have a molecular advantage in accuracy @ 100 & 200 yards. Providing the shooter was on top of his or her game, either crimp would carry a match. A profile crimp may work best on thin brass, or where the expander plug is thicker than desirable for bullet, or brass. Potential problems reduce way down when the crimp is separate from seating. Trouble starts when the crimp is applied before seating is complete. David Bradshaw By chance have you compared lee factory crimp does that use a collet crimp? Curious how they might measure up. |
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Post by edk on Sept 18, 2023 20:43:24 GMT -5
Anyone using the Lee collet style crimp die for the 45 Colt?
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Post by bradshaw on Sept 20, 2023 11:49:42 GMT -5
[/quote]By chance have you compared lee factory crimp does that use a collet crimp? Curious how they might measure up.[/quote]
----northerngos
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Haven’t tried Lee Factory Crimp Die. Regular roll crimp worked among top champions for podium performances in IHMSA silhouette.
David Bradshaw
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Post by foxtrapper on Sept 21, 2023 9:22:57 GMT -5
One reason I really like the Lee factory crimp is it ensures the finished round is SAAMI minimum specs and will chamber in FA guns every time. This! Tight custom guns too! |
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Post by wheelnut on Sept 21, 2023 12:40:07 GMT -5
My vote is for the Redding, specifically with the micrometer adjuster on top. It's precise, repeatable and allows you to take notes of how much crimp gives you what result. I have in my loading notes the required crimp for several bullets and it's a matter of simply dialing it in and off to loading you go.
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