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[2 Dogs]

Something way cool this way comes via 2 Dogs and the Big Dog Boss Hog…

We been working on this since 2019!

Details and pics to follow!

[JM]

Uh-Oh!!!

Is there also a soon to be released Only Fans site?

[pacecars]

You tease

[pleadthe2nd]

Inquiring minds want to know, this is going to be spectacular....

[45MAN]

THE RUGER REARSIGHT?

[sixshot]

[kings6]

Personally I’d just like to see the Clements patterned hammers shipped before news of anything else dropping.

[bula]

On one hand, seems rather cruel ! On the other, folks can start saving up !

[2 Dogs]

Jul 22, 2023 8:59:03 GMT -5 kings6 said:

Personally I’d just like to see the Clements patterned hammers shipped before news of anything else dropping.

Hey Robb, manufacturing precision hammers, and that’s what these will be before they get a RW stamp, is not unlike reverse engineering a spaceship. How do I know? Because I’ve been there and seen it for myself. There’s not a soul on this website that has more invested in that process than me. I can also say that Ronnie has literally worked the meat off his considerable fingers, and spent tens of thousands of dollars, to get them done. Hang in there, rest assured we are working hard to put our best out for you guys.

[2 Dogs]

Guys, according to our records Ronnie and I started this project 19 months BEFORE he took on the hammers. When I first started going to his shop he had a single CNC machine running. Then he took on 2 more that he completely took apart, and I mean down to the hull, and completely rebuilt to include not only restoring the X/Y axis to the needed level of precision but also built custom mother boards from scratch. On top of all that he also added the 4th axis capability. The latest addition has been the wire EDM machine all of which has totaled some 340K and does not account for tooling and tool holders, coolant, blood sweat and tears hard hot work. Every upgrade has led to another change in the manufacturing process which itself requires new programming and then refining that program to get it right.

I can say for a fact that you can have the best idea in the world. But getting it off the drawing board and into production is like arm wrestling the Hulk.

Hang in there guys. We won’t quit on you.

[pacecars]

Amen!

[longoval]

Can't wait!!

[pacecars]

David was only doing a few hammers or triggers for a few builds a year with a lot of hand fitting. I would imagine trying to make them in mass quantities is not as easy as it looks. Ronnie is a perfectionist and since his name and company will be on it he is not going to let an inferior product out the door. Show some patience. He has been making grip frames since the 80s just not on the scale he is doing now. I would trust what he and Fermin are bringing out and just wait on the man to perfect the hammer process. Remember he is the one with the money invested. Are any of you going to buy more than a couple of hammers?

[RDW]

Jul 22, 2023 21:46:58 GMT -5 gettinold said:

Jul 22, 2023 10:13:34 GMT -5 2 Dogs said:

Hey Robb, manufacturing precision hammers, and that’s what these will be before they get a RW stamp, is not unlike reverse engineering a spaceship. How do I know? Because I’ve been there and seen it for myself. There’s not a soul on this website that has more invested in that process than me. I can also say that Ronnie has literally worked the meat off his considerable fingers, and spent tens of thousands of dollars, to get them done. Hang in there, rest assured we are working hard to put our best out for you guys.

I have no dog in the fight but do you suppose David Clements went through this much grief in producing his hammers and triggers? I would go for a trigger if they were ever available.

Hey Guys , sorry i have not posted here lately or had the time to update on everything but there is a lot going on at RWGF. A lot of old projects and tasks are coming to an end and i am steadily pounding away here as usuall 7 of every
seven.
Hey gettinold, love the name and can definately relate. Hahaha
No dogs in the fight necasary there buddy. Its a good question and i can definately answer that based on the experiances of this journey.
I have had many a conversation about this very subject with Dave, And to answer that question i would say NO! Several reasons. 1, David got all of his experimentation done and made them in small batches of 6 or so. 2 He made them and had the luxury of installing them himself, giving him the opportunity to tune and file a smidge here a smidge there until they fit and operate just fine. I wont get that opportunity so when they leave here ,THEY HAVE TO BE SPOT ON AND FIT PERFECTLY. Otherwise i will have a lot of angry men. My goal was to have them perfect. I am mass producing these so that they can be readily available. During this journey and having 2 dozen old models tore apart for all this time, I have found many descrepancys in the geometry and the dimentions of these frames and hole placements for the screws. One hammer installed in another frame would yeild early or late timing issues. Its a simple mechanical design but several things have to happen at the right time otherwise there will be problems for you all when your expecting them to be  a drop in each time. My first issue was a mistake i made using a material that was misrepresented to me. I bought a butt load of 4140 and carved them all out and could not get them to heat treat. Found out after a trip to an acquaitance with a Mass spec machine that i had just made them out of 1018 which will never harden. That was fun but we got past that. Next problem i had was getting my time on a joint venture Wire EDM. That ended well with the 150 K purchase of a Brand new ROBOCUT Fanuc 440 ic Wire EDM Machine. Having it here in my facility litterly liberated my work holdin capability. This thing will do some incredible work and allowed me to absolutely improve the way i machine everything. It is going to allow for steel grip frames as well. I have found a sweet spot for all the holes in the hammers and have moved the trigger placement so that it will work with my grip frames as well as the ruger bisleys. Once i started this i realised that once again the trigger guards all had some minor differances and in order for my vision of the back of the trigger guard to become a trigger stop i had to make a few more changes in the placement of the part of the trigger that your finger touches. i also noticed that we could lengthen the trigger a smidge and make it look better and take up the entire hole in the trigger guard.
i have a pile of these made in all of the configurations and i am now making the pins and bolt plungers. A well as waiting on the springs. I have to keep up with the rest of my products at the same time so there has been a bit of a learning curve involved.  Figuring out the proper way to schedule machine time, Improving the work holding, making sure that there is consistancy in the materials all comes to bear when you have multiple products all going at the same time. As far as this thread that Fermin is talking about, this part was actually started in 2019 and i beleive will cure or revolutionise an existing problem that we are now experiencing with the lack of a good replacement part. We have also got a really nice packaging setup for these as well. Sometimes the head spins but its all panning out about the same time. Fermin is just excited and so am i. I have beat this horse to death and i am looking forward to seeing what you all think about the Hammers and triggers as well as this new product. So with that being said i hope that helps. Its 10:12 Sunday morning and i am going to go Change Vise jaws and load some Stainless Ruger Old Army Bisley Fat Backs That are EDMd out and Mow them mammys out so i can heat treat them tommorrow.
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[RDW]

Jul 23, 2023 9:46:52 GMT -5 pacecars said:

David was only doing a few hammers or triggers for a few builds a year with a lot of hand fitting. I would imagine trying to make them in mass quantities is not as easy as it looks. Ronnie is a perfectionist and since his name and company will be on it he is not going to let an inferior product out the door. Show some patience. He has been making grip frames since the 80s just not on the scale he is doing now. I would trust what he and Fermin are bringing out and just wait on the man to perfect the hammer process. Remember he is the one with the money invested. Are any of you going to buy more than a couple of hammers?

Hey Ronnie thanks for the kind words. The hammers are definately perfection buddy. I am very proud of them and there is a number of great guys on this forum that threw down Bucks for these things and i just have to make sure they are taken care of. All of you who did come to the table, hang tight you will get more than you bought so that i feel good about this journey we took on together. If you bought one you will get two and so on and so forth.
I have made piles of them. Finish Plungers and springs and they are shipping. We have the new models ready to make by the way because we cant get our hands on any moly steel from Ruger anymore. Once that is done i am going after colt styles as well, first and second gen.