mooshoo
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Post by mooshoo on May 20, 2023 22:52:09 GMT -5
which frame is bigger the colt or ruger? and I'm talking about a colt anaconda or a ruger Redhawk or a super Redhawk in 44 mag which is best?
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Post by contender on May 21, 2023 9:27:18 GMT -5
Size is not the way to judge a frame. What TYPE of material that is used is a way to judge a frame strength.
However,, if size is the consideration for carrying purposes,, I can't say anything about the Colt, as I don't have one. But the Super Redhawk is a bigger frame than the Redhawk.
For me,, in MY hands, for balance, carry & use,, the Redhawk is better than the Super Redhawk.
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Post by bigbrowndog on May 21, 2023 9:52:58 GMT -5
Contender, technically the frames of the Redhawk and SRH are the same, at least from my looking into the frames. I had to measure some for a holster and at the width, height and length they were virtually identical, within .05” easily. The snout on the frame of the SRH and the grip spike are the most visual differences, the material they are made from may be different and give greater strength but in comparing silhouette and overall dimensions they are the same. The feel could easily be different due to snout on frame and grip spike thus throwing balance and feel into different areas. As to the OPs question, there is no BEST, there is stronger, lighter, prettier, uglier, weaker, heavier, cheaper, costlier, easier to find and harder to find, but there is no best.
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mooshoo
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Post by mooshoo on May 21, 2023 10:10:09 GMT -5
thanks that's what i was thinking.
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Post by bradshaw on May 21, 2023 11:00:24 GMT -5
which frame is bigger the colt or ruger? and I'm talking about a colt anaconda or a ruger Redhawk or a super Redhawk in 44 mag which is best? ***** Super Redhawk is a permutation pf the Redhawk to: * simplify production. * add a trigger spring separate from the mainspring. * facilitate use of round stock or hammer forged barrel. * facilitate more grip configurations (via “grip spike” concept of Warren Center’s Contender). As for frame size, both Redhawk and Anaconda have frames noticeably beefier than the S&W N-frame. S&W and Colt each employ a SIDEPLATE FRAME. Bill Ruger took advantage of the investment casting process to engineer SOLID FRAME double action revolvers. As Bill Ruger and his son Bill, Jr., observed, a side plate frame absorbs stress asymmetrically. Whereas, a solid frame absorbs stress symmetrically. Insofar as your quest pertains to strength, the Redhawk and SRH have been tested to the stratosphere .44 Mag, .45 Colt, .454 Casull, .480 Ruger, and various .500 Katzenjammers----without flinching. I’ve heard on no such adventures with the Anaconda. David Bradshaw
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Post by pacecars on May 21, 2023 12:05:10 GMT -5
David, although the OP didn’t mention them and I believe you have a lot of experience with them from silhouettes, how does the DW compare?
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Post by bradshaw on May 21, 2023 20:11:45 GMT -5
pacecars.... the big frame Dan Wesson Arms M-44 .44 Mag reached production soon after release of the S&W M-629 and Ruger Redhawk. As a wrestling coach might intone, the Redhawk and DWA M-44 are “animals.” It would severely hijack this thread to put these sixguns hard-to-head here. On the silhouette firing line the Dan Wesson wins hands down. On the trail----not so fast. The Ruger and the Dan share powerful conceptual attributes, yet a canyon opens between their interpretations.
I tried the Big Dan and Big Red in the IHMSA Silhouette and American Handgunner back in the day. The Dan Wesson M-44 fit right in. All I can add now is TIME, and both contribute brilliance to resolution of double action strength. Both prove the swing-out DA viable at power. Each seizes its own artistic high ground. By “artistic” I mean orientation to PERFORMANCE.
The Super Redhawk had yet too be born when Dan Wesson Arms released the M-44. I never did a direct comparison of these two at the time, and won’t now, but it remains a viable subject, especially for shooters who missed out on a ferocious period of revolver marksmanship. David Bradshaw
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